October 1, 201411 yr It's comical to me how people can turn this guy into the victim. That's why America is so soft today, we're a shell of what we once were. Be smarter than the above. No one is saying the kid is a victim. That's lazy.
October 1, 201411 yr For those that think he was fair game...if the kid hit his head on the turf and suffered a brain injury you'd say "too bad for you, kid?"
October 1, 201411 yr For those that think he was fair game...if the kid hit his head on the turf and suffered a brain injury you'd say "too bad for you, kid?" No, but I also don't think it was intentional or malicious by the coach. I think it was heat of the moment. I also think revoking his scholarship is a bit extreme. As much as we need to teach young adults to not put themselves into positions that could jeopardize their future, we also need to give them the chance to learn from them. Unless the dude is a habitual idiot, the reaction has been over the top.
October 1, 201411 yr No, but I also don't think it was intentional or malicious by the coach. I think it was heat of the moment. I also think revoking his scholarship is a bit extreme. As much as we need to teach young adults to not put themselves into positions that could jeopardize their future, we also need to give them the chance to learn from them. Unless the dude is a habitual idiot, the reaction has been over the top. Doesn't matter if it was intentional or malicious. Not the point. Point is it was excessive, risky, and dangerous. While you are 100% correct that the kid was immature and stupid for coming onto the field it doesn't mean he's fair game. No one disputes it was stupid.
October 1, 201411 yr Doesn't matter if it was intentional or malicious. Not the point. Point is it was excessive, risky, and dangerous. While you are 100% correct that the kid was immature and stupid for coming onto the field it doesn't mean he's fair game. No one disputes it was stupid. If we were talking about someone shooting him, then totally agree. A "body blam" or being thrown to the ground...not at all the same. The cops would have done the same if he struggled with them or tried to get away.
October 1, 201411 yr For those that think he was fair game...if the kid hit his head on the turf and suffered a brain injury you'd say "too bad for you, kid?" To me, it would have been similar to had he fallen while trying to climb down onto the field. He had no business there and took that risk once he went onto the field. I would feel bad for the kid and his family as a result of his poor decision, but I wouldn't feel any differently about what was done to him, b/c in my opinion, that is what is necessary to stop this stuff.
October 1, 201411 yr If we were talking about someone shooting him, then totally agree. A "body blam" or being thrown to the ground...not at all the same. The cops would have done the same if he struggled with them or tried to get away. Again, it's not WHAT happened. The issue is that it COULD have put the coach, the kid, and the university in a bad position. It was unnecessary and risky. Coach went too far in a non-dangerous situation.
October 1, 201411 yr To me, it would have been similar to had he fallen while trying to climb down onto the field. He had no business there and took that risk once he went onto the field. I would feel bad for the kid and his family as a result of his poor decision, but I wouldn't feel any differently about what was done to him, b/c in my opinion, that is what is necessary to stop this stuff. Stunned. Absolutely stunned. You would write off a serious injury as necessary to "stop this stuff" even though "this stuff" is harmless? Come on now. Think this through here.
October 1, 201411 yr Let's say I'm playing pickup basketball and a guy throws an elbow at me. Doesn't hit me but comes really close. Happens a lot, in fact. I pick him up and body slam him and he breaks his neck. Appropriate response? Or should I expect a lawsuit and/or jail time?
October 1, 201411 yr Stunned. Absolutely stunned. You would write off a serious injury as necessary to "stop this stuff" even though "this stuff" is harmless? Come on now. Think this through here. You miss interpreted me. I didn't mean that a serious injury was necessary. I meant that a physical consequence was necessary. In you hypothetical, unfortunately a serious injury occured. 99% of these guys are just drunken idiots. The other 1% are like the guys that attacked the umpire and the KC 1st base coach. A seat gives you a license to sit, not endanger the players. Like I said, I wouldn't be writing off anything. I would feel terrible for teh kid and his family. I would not be upset w/ the coach.
October 1, 201411 yr I am thinking this through. 99% of these guys are just drunken idiots. The other 1% are like the guys that attacked the umpire and the KC 1st base coach. A seat gives you a license to sit, not endanger the players. Like I said, I wouldn't be writing off anything. I would feel terrible for teh kid and his family. I would not be upset w/ the coach. WOW!
October 1, 201411 yr Again, it's not WHAT happened. The issue is that it COULD have put the coach, the kid, and the university in a bad position. It was unnecessary and risky. Coach went too far in a non-dangerous situation. But I don't think you can just say it's a non dangerous situation. I don't know enough about what happened, but no one truly knows when someone is a danger or not anymore.
October 1, 201411 yr WOW! What are you wow'ing at? He's right. We assume that the kid falls in the 99% of drunken idiots doing this but he ends up being one of the 1% who are radical and want to harm someone or himself, and then people will question why someone didn't step in and stop him even with force. We don't live in a society or world where people can assume innocent intent anymore. We don't know when to consider someone dangerous or not in situations that may have been very innocent appearing in the past.
October 1, 201411 yr What are you wow'ing at? He's right. We assume that the kid falls in the 99% of drunken idiots doing this but he ends up being one of the 1% who are radical and want to harm someone or himself, and then people will question why someone didn't step in and stop him even with force. We don't live in a society or world where people can assume innocent intent anymore. We don't know when to consider someone dangerous or not in situations that may have been very innocent appearing in the past. We assume that because he showed no threat. No one ever does. They get grabbed and taken off the field. Many on here are of the mind that "well it's on him for being on the field NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!" That's crap. Our society is built on appropriate responses. When is the last time someone ran onto a field of play and attacked someone? How many times in the last 10 years?
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