ND sweeps Lex Cath 1 to 0 in Varsity and JV. Very good soccer.

 

Very confused by one thing though. The parents and announcer were giving the refs a little bit of the what for after the JV. They said the refs were dead wrong about JV playing 30 minute halves. Have I been missing something the past 15 years or something. I was sure we always played 30 in JV.

 

Please chime in.

I am more intrigued about you saying the "announcer"gave the ref the what for. If that was the case, it should be the last time that announcer should be allow to do a game......hopefully the AD was there

I should clarify. This was after the game and started off as just a, "please clarify this for me". I think it got a little short when the conversation started to drag on. Whole thing was really strange. Took nothing from the games though. It really was some amazing soccer and probably a good test for ND.

Might have been some confusion because of the heat index and trying to allow for water breaks etc.

I was at the game as well and heard the conversation.

A little background would be helpful.

 

Technically speaking the NFHS (National Federation of High Schools) set the rules for all high school soccer.

All rules apply to Varisty games including the rule that states halves are played as 40 minutes.

 

It's ONLY Varsity where the 40 minutes apply.

 

Frosh and JV is up to individual states to set their own time periods. There is no real standard time across all of Kentucky for JV.

In Northern Kentucky the refs apply standard start and stop procedures for time clocks and use a 30 minute half.

That means they stop the clock for the same reasons the do in Varsity (e.g. goal, ingury, cards, etc) which means a full 30 mins is played (barring heat rules but even those don't usually apply as the rule states no longer than 30 minutes which they then just run the clock for 30 mins with no stoppage). In other parts of Kentucky like Lexington they do a running 35 min clock with no stoppage or so I was told. I've never been down there for a game to observer but assume they simply run it for 35 mins. If this is true then on average both systems should come out to about the same amount of time actually played.

 

It appears from what I saw the Lexington coaching sstaff asked NDA staff to play 35 and the announcer put 35 on the clock to start the game but the center ref ended it with something like 4 mins left on the clock as he was going off his watch which he stopped and started as indicated by his hand gestures of winding his arm (for start) and cross them (for stop).

 

From what I could hear it did get a little testie with a couple of Lex Cath parents and the announcer, who i think was just asking for clarification as I suspect he was told they were going to do 35 by someone on NDA's staff, only added to the problem of confusion.

 

On an actual soccer side, that was one of the weaker NDA teams I've seen the past 5-6 years I've been around the area watching. The good news is that they have some good young talent. One that stood out was the soph center back. Very strong and skilled.

 

I heard NDA has 2 normal starters out for how long I'm not sure. One is their starting center back, Greenwell who's a UC commit. The other is a Soph but didn't hear her name but someone pointed her out as having a boot on her foot.

 

It looked very even in terms of ball possession the first half with NDA having a few more chances but overall pretty equal.

 

The start of the second half Lex Cath came out sluggish and NDA looked much quicker and winning all the 50/50 and then taking over majority of possession and thus chances.

 

I hung around long enough of the JV game to see the loan goal which actually was the best shot on goal in either game. Don't know who took it but the goal was off a direct kick from about 15 yards outside the box toward the NDA bench. Text book of up and over the wall and the ball dropping with speed just under the bar. Big Props to whichever young lady took it.

I was at the game as well and heard the conversation.

A little background would be helpful.

 

Technically speaking the NFHS (National Federation of High Schools) set the rules for all high school soccer.

All rules apply to Varisty games including the rule that states halves are played as 40 minutes.

 

It's ONLY Varsity where the 40 minutes apply.

 

Frosh and JV is up to individual states to set their own time periods. There is no real standard time across all of Kentucky for JV.

In Northern Kentucky the refs apply standard start and stop procedures for time clocks and use a 30 minute half.

That means they stop the clock for the same reasons the do in Varsity (e.g. goal, ingury, cards, etc) which means a full 30 mins is played (barring heat rules but even those don't usually apply as the rule states no longer than 30 minutes which they then just run the clock for 30 mins with no stoppage). In other parts of Kentucky like Lexington they do a running 35 min clock with no stoppage or so I was told. I've never been down there for a game to observer but assume they simply run it for 35 mins. If this is true then on average both systems should come out to about the same amount of time actually played.

 

It appears from what I saw the Lexington coaching sstaff asked NDA staff to play 35 and the announcer put 35 on the clock to start the game but the center ref ended it with something like 4 mins left on the clock as he was going off his watch which he stopped and started as indicated by his hand gestures of winding his arm (for start) and cross them (for stop).

 

From what I could hear it did get a little testie with a couple of Lex Cath parents and the announcer, who i think was just asking for clarification as I suspect he was told they were going to do 35 by someone on NDA's staff, only added to the problem of confusion.

 

On an actual soccer side, that was one of the weaker NDA teams I've seen the past 5-6 years I've been around the area watching. The good news is that they have some good young talent. One that stood out was the soph center back. Very strong and skilled.

 

I heard NDA has 2 normal starters out for how long I'm not sure. One is their starting center back, Greenwell who's a UC commit. The other is a Soph but didn't hear her name but someone pointed her out as having a boot on her foot.

 

It looked very even in terms of ball possession the first half with NDA having a few more chances but overall pretty equal.

 

The start of the second half Lex Cath came out sluggish and NDA looked much quicker and winning all the 50/50 and then taking over majority of possession and thus chances.

 

I hung around long enough of the JV game to see the loan goal which actually was the best shot on goal in either game. Don't know who took it but the goal was off a direct kick from about 15 yards outside the box toward the NDA bench. Text book of up and over the wall and the ball dropping with speed just under the bar. Big Props to whichever young lady took it.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I heard only the conversation after the game with the refs and who I assumed was the announcer and some parents. I guess if Lexington plays different that is fine but I don't think you should change what is the standard for your area to accommodate. Teams in NKY need to be consistent when playing in NKY.

 

I totally agree with you assessment of the games. They both played very well and I was impressed. I think that NDA needs to gets a little more aggressive on the attack though to contend with some of the scoring powerhouses from down state.

Why would parents be getting "testy" with a PA announcer?

I was at the game as well and heard the conversation.

A little background would be helpful.

 

Technically speaking the NFHS (National Federation of High Schools) set the rules for all high school soccer.

All rules apply to Varisty games including the rule that states halves are played as 40 minutes.

 

It's ONLY Varsity where the 40 minutes apply.

 

Frosh and JV is up to individual states to set their own time periods. There is no real standard time across all of Kentucky for JV.

In Northern Kentucky the refs apply standard start and stop procedures for time clocks and use a 30 minute half.

That means they stop the clock for the same reasons the do in Varsity (e.g. goal, ingury, cards, etc) which means a full 30 mins is played (barring heat rules but even those don't usually apply as the rule states no longer than 30 minutes which they then just run the clock for 30 mins with no stoppage). In other parts of Kentucky like Lexington they do a running 35 min clock with no stoppage or so I was told. I've never been down there for a game to observer but assume they simply run it for 35 mins. If this is true then on average both systems should come out to about the same amount of time actually played.

 

It appears from what I saw the Lexington coaching sstaff asked NDA staff to play 35 and the announcer put 35 on the clock to start the game but the center ref ended it with something like 4 mins left on the clock as he was going off his watch which he stopped and started as indicated by his hand gestures of winding his arm (for start) and cross them (for stop).

 

From what I could hear it did get a little testie with a couple of Lex Cath parents and the announcer, who i think was just asking for clarification as I suspect he was told they were going to do 35 by someone on NDA's staff, only added to the problem of confusion.

 

On an actual soccer side, that was one of the weaker NDA teams I've seen the past 5-6 years I've been around the area watching. The good news is that they have some good young talent. One that stood out was the soph center back. Very strong and skilled.

 

I heard NDA has 2 normal starters out for how long I'm not sure. One is their starting center back, Greenwell who's a UC commit. The other is a Soph but didn't hear her name but someone pointed her out as having a boot on her foot.

 

It looked very even in terms of ball possession the first half with NDA having a few more chances but overall pretty equal.

 

The start of the second half Lex Cath came out sluggish and NDA looked much quicker and winning all the 50/50 and then taking over majority of possession and thus chances.

 

I hung around long enough of the JV game to see the loan goal which actually was the best shot on goal in either game. Don't know who took it but the goal was off a direct kick from about 15 yards outside the box toward the NDA bench. Text book of up and over the wall and the ball dropping with speed just under the bar. Big Props to whichever young lady took it.

 

Nice post. Enjoyed reading it.

Nice post. Enjoyed reading it.

No doubt. futbalfan is a nice addition to the soccer forum.

Nice post. Enjoyed reading it.

 

No doubt. futbalfan is a nice addition to the soccer forum.

 

I hope he/she can keep this up... the bar has been set pretty high.

I'm not a soccer fan, so I don't know, but isn't there a refs/coaches/captains meeting prior to the game? It seems like that is the time to discuss length of the contest, if it isn't standard.

Sometimes there is a discussion when a JV match is played versus a Lexington (35 Minutes) or Ohio (37 minutes) team or if its a JV only game. It's the centers discretion depending on time constraints and coaches input. I personally would like to see the 35 min running clock in NKY with stoppage for injury.

Sometimes there is a discussion when a JV match is played versus a Lexington (35 Minutes) or Ohio (37 minutes) team or if its a JV only game. It's the centers discretion depending on time constraints and coaches input. I personally would like to see the 35 min running clock in NKY with stoppage for injury.

 

Theoretically it sounds good but there are two things going against from what I heard. First, Nky has more fields played without lights than Lex area. If game is played during week and beyond the second or possibly 2nd week of season you would be lucky to get 2 running 30s in much less 35 due to darkness. Secondly, and I don't know if this true but I thought I heard that the state doesn't have a standard pay scale for officials across all regions. Basically, some get paid more or less for the same level of a game and position. This may have a factor in it as well but it's just a guess.

I was at the game as well and heard the conversation.

A little background would be helpful.

 

Technically speaking the NFHS (National Federation of High Schools) set the rules for all high school soccer.

All rules apply to Varisty games including the rule that states halves are played as 40 minutes.

 

It's ONLY Varsity where the 40 minutes apply.

 

Frosh and JV is up to individual states to set their own time periods. There is no real standard time across all of Kentucky for JV.

In Northern Kentucky the refs apply standard start and stop procedures for time clocks and use a 30 minute half.

That means they stop the clock for the same reasons the do in Varsity (e.g. goal, ingury, cards, etc) which means a full 30 mins is played (barring heat rules but even those don't usually apply as the rule states no longer than 30 minutes which they then just run the clock for 30 mins with no stoppage). In other parts of Kentucky like Lexington they do a running 35 min clock with no stoppage or so I was told. I've never been down there for a game to observer but assume they simply run it for 35 mins. If this is true then on average both systems should come out to about the same amount of time actually played.

 

It appears from what I saw the Lexington coaching sstaff asked NDA staff to play 35 and the announcer put 35 on the clock to start the game but the center ref ended it with something like 4 mins left on the clock as he was going off his watch which he stopped and started as indicated by his hand gestures of winding his arm (for start) and cross them (for stop).

 

From what I could hear it did get a little testie with a couple of Lex Cath parents and the announcer, who i think was just asking for clarification as I suspect he was told they were going to do 35 by someone on NDA's staff, only added to the problem of confusion.

 

On an actual soccer side, that was one of the weaker NDA teams I've seen the past 5-6 years I've been around the area watching. The good news is that they have some good young talent. One that stood out was the soph center back. Very strong and skilled.

 

I heard NDA has 2 normal starters out for how long I'm not sure. One is their starting center back, Greenwell who's a UC commit. The other is a Soph but didn't hear her name but someone pointed her out as having a boot on her foot.

 

It looked very even in terms of ball possession the first half with NDA having a few more chances but overall pretty equal.

 

The start of the second half Lex Cath came out sluggish and NDA looked much quicker and winning all the 50/50 and then taking over majority of possession and thus chances.

 

I hung around long enough of the JV game to see the loan goal which actually was the best shot on goal in either game. Don't know who took it but the goal was off a direct kick from about 15 yards outside the box toward the NDA bench. Text book of up and over the wall and the ball dropping with speed just under the bar. Big Props to whichever young lady took it.

 

I believe Libby Greenwell is out for the entire year w/ an ACL injury. Big loss for NDA.

I'm not a soccer fan, so I don't know, but isn't there a refs/coaches/captains meeting prior to the game? It seems like that is the time to discuss length of the contest, if it isn't standard.

 

They have a meeting but game play is not a topic. Its just a coin toss. Its not like many other sports or its not supposed to be.