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I like that. A min age makes much more sense.

Let'em play.... I graduated when I was 17, 5'10".... 155 lbs.... at 19, I was 6'2" ...195 lbs. If I had had that extra size as a senior, many more sports opportunities would have been available to me.

Let'em play.... I graduated when I was 17, 5'10".... 155 lbs.... at 19, I was 6'2" ...195 lbs. If I had had that extra size as a senior, many more sports opportunities would have been available to me.

 

Sure, let them play. But let the 15 year old 8th grader play as a HS freshman. Tie sports to age, not grade.

Let's make the 13 year old play pee wee ball if he don't want to play 15 year olds.

I have no problem with it. I was a holdback and it really helped me both in school and sports. My son is a holdback and will turn 19 in September of his senior yr. what needs to happen is the start date of students entering school needs to match KHSAA.

I can't believe that there are still people that hold their kids back just so they get an advantage athletically.

I can't believe that there are still people that hold their kids back just so they get an advantage athletically.

 

 

I think it is worse now than I can ever remember.

I think it is worse now than I can ever remember.

 

Do you really?

 

I don't..then, again, it could just be where I am.

 

Truth be told, I can count on one hand the number of time of heard of it being done at all.

I can't believe that there are still people that hold their kids back just so they get an advantage athletically.

 

I'd agree with some of that, especially if it's one of these kids where the dad is 5'6, the mom is 5'0 and they somehow think that holding their kid back a year is going to somehow change that genetically bad hand which was dealt to the kid.

 

Then again, I don't know what's worse....parent(s) holding their kids back for that or parents starting their kids a year early in school b/c they can count to 10 in spanish merely from watching non stop Dora the Explorer.

 

I have 3 male cousins on my moms side, who were all "Advanced"..started early, graduated when they were 17 (and a handfull of months away from being 18 at that). One dropped out of college (doing pretty well for himself nonetheless), and two others are on the 10 year plans just for their undergrad (which fine so long as they are paying for it, but I find it funny simply bc of the whole "advanced" thing from years back).

 

Good families, too. Upper-Mid class.

 

Their social, physical and mental maturation levels just sucked something awful (probably still does to some extent).

This might tick a few people off but...oh well, it's my opinion. Typically...and let me say here that there will ALWAYS be intervening individual circumstances, but typically a kid graduating high school should not be older than 18. Now, within that range, you will have kids graduating at 17 and turning 18 in the summer after graduation (these are the youngest in their class), you will have some turning 18 the summer just before they start their senior year (oldest in the class), and of course the majority of kids will/should be turning 18 during the school year between Aug-May, which I did my senior year, turning 18 in April just before graduation.

 

Now, when I was in high school back in the early 80's, this question probably would have never come up, simply because there were very very few 19 yo kids still attending high school. Now maybe that's just how it was where I went to school, but I believe that was the case in most places. It seems that today the number of kids turning 19 or even already 19 by the time they start their senior year is much greater than in the past. Again, there are definitely some legitimate reasons some kids are in this situation, BUT, I also believe this number has increased in recent years SPECIFICALLY because of parents holding kids back for athletic purposes. This I cannot agree with.

 

Personally, my thought is 19 yo's shouldn't be playing high school sports in MOST circumstances...again there are always outliers/specific circumstances that need to be looked at on an individual basis, but overall this is my feeling.

 

Now, the idea that someone had above where the clock starts ticking when a kid starts the 6th grade and has 14 semesters to compete in middle school and high school athletics...that I could possibly get on board with as kids being held back before the 6th grade probably really need it for academic/emotional/maturity reasons. But, just like everything else, if that was the case you would see some parents start abusing that as well so little "Johnny" could get a leg up on the athletic competition and hold back in the 4th and 5th grades in stead of middle school. But with the KHSAA getting ready to take over ms athletics, this will probably be the case anyway as kids who repeat in a ms grade won't be eligible to participate in sports their repeat year per KHSAA.

 

I will leave with this thought. Within the past few years there was a state championship basketball team that...if I am to believe the middle school coach who told me this, and there are several reasons I am apt to believe him...every senior on this state winning championship team was 19 yo when they walked across stage for graduation, and there were several of them. That's just not right...at least to me.

I think it is worse now than I can ever remember.

 

Absolutely agree wholeheartedly PP my brother. And I don't think it's even close.

The problem is that there are way to many parents that are certain that their son/daughter is an all american just waiting to sign with an elite college program and will do ANYTHING to prove it. That's the reason that AAU basketball, travel soccer, volleyball and baseball and God knows what else have become the money sucking cesspools that they are but I digress.

 

Let your kid go to school when he/she is supposed to go, if they need more time academically so be it, hold them back.

Do you really?

 

I don't..then, again, it could just be where I am.

 

Truth be told, I can count on one hand the number of time of heard of it being done at all.

 

Same here, just don't hear about it all that much but then again, it's not something most people care enough to even discuss. If a child is held back from the start most people will not even know how old he is.

Same here, just don't hear about it all that much but then again, it's not something most people care enough to even discuss. If a child is held back from the start most people will not even know how old he is.

 

Oh, it's a HUGE topic of conversation in some areas of the state where it's...some would say almost an epidemic. There are pockets throughout the state where it occurs on a regular basis.

Oh, it's a HUGE topic of conversation in some areas of the state where it's...some would say almost an epidemic. There are pockets throughout the state where it occurs on a regular basis.

 

Wonder why some areas seem to be affected more than others.