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Reds at 60 games: Glass half-full or Glass half-empty?

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Problem is, if they are around .500 on July 3rd, they will have a decision to make as to whether to be buyers or sellers.

 

I don't think there's any question that they will aim for the playoffs if they're floating around .500 in early July.

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I don't think there's any question that they will aim for the playoffs if they're floating around .500 in early July.

 

If they are .500 and 10 games back of the division?

If they are .500 and 10 games back of the division?

 

Obviously it depends on who is in front of them (and by how much), but I think Jocketty & ownership have shown they want to win. If there's a chance, they'll pursue it, IMO.

Obviously it depends on who is in front of them (and by how much), but I think Jocketty & ownership have shown they want to win. If there's a chance, they'll pursue it, IMO.

 

Ownership has proven they are willing to overpay (as a lot of small town teams do) to keep players and sell jerseys. However, those big K's are like boat anchors on bad teams.

Problem is, if they are around .500 on July 3rd, they will have a decision to make as to whether to be buyers or sellers.

 

I know I'm :deadhorse: on this, but BP has to go whether they are buyers or sellers. The interesting thing will be how they spin dumping him to the fan-base if they are within "go for it" distance.

The problem is what do they want to do. The division isn't shaping up as a tough one, so yeah, maybe we can make a run to get there. But do they think we have the goods to do some damage once we get there.

 

Inevitably, this team is either going to win as currently constructed, or going to have to cut it's losses and get rid of some contracts while acquiring some young talent to build back up the farm system. Those are the two best baseball moves.

 

The alternative method is what the Phillies are currently doing, God love em, and hanging on to everyone despite big contracts and average numbers while being totally out of the race. But hey, at least they still have Utley, Howard, and Lee.

I know I'm :deadhorse: on this, but BP has to go whether they are buyers or sellers. The interesting thing will be how they spin dumping him to the fan-base if they are within "go for it" distance.

 

I disagree.... Why must BP go one way or the other? It's like conceding contention? (Assuming they are in contention... If they decide they are sellers, trading BP is probably a good option).

I know I'm :deadhorse: on this, but BP has to go whether they are buyers or sellers. The interesting thing will be how they spin dumping him to the fan-base if they are within "go for it" distance.

 

From spindocredsmediarelease.com

 

We'd like to thank Brandon for his years of service, his work in the community and his dedication to the great fans of the Queen city. At this time we are in the process of radiation therapy on the cancer in the dugout, chemotherapy to insure the mass is gone from the clubhouse. As a result, there may be some sickness we undergo as we get back to total health as an organization. We will use pink baseball bats for the rest of the season as a reminder that we should all want stomp out cancer. Thanks for your continued support.

 

From spindocredsmediarelease.com

 

We'd like to thank Brandon for his years of service, his work in the community and his dedication to the great fans of the Queen city. At this time we are in the process of radiation therapy on the cancer in the dugout, chemotherapy to insure the mass is gone from the clubhouse. As a result, there may be some sickness we undergo as we get back to total health as an organization. We will use pink baseball bats for the rest of the season as a reminder that we should all want stomp out cancer. Thanks for your continued support.

 

 

What, exactly, has BP done this season to warrant being a clubhouse cancer? He's moved to the #3 hole without complaint, hit a respectable average, played great defense, been able to stay on the field, and kept his mouth shut. What more do you want from him?

What, exactly, has BP done this season to warrant being a clubhouse cancer? He's moved to the #3 hole without complaint, hit a respectable average, played great defense, been able to stay on the field, and kept his mouth shut. What more do you want from him?

Well, some of the posters here are privy to a bit more inside info that the typical joe schmuck. Perhaps you should ask some of those folks. But for me, how about jogging to first, how about not moving runners over, how about the bickering in social media about Votto's contract and making a spectacle of himself while calling out ownership? I could go on........

 

Perhaps you should review some of the earlier threads that outline his shenanigans.

Well, some of the posters here are privy to a bit more inside info that the typical joe schmuck. Perhaps you should ask some of those folks. But for me, how about jogging to first, how about not moving runners over, how about the bickering in social media about Votto's contract and making a spectacle of himself while calling out ownership? I could go on........

 

Perhaps you should review some of the earlier threads that outline his shenanigans.

 

Yep. He's a ginormous tool. He has hoodwinked a large portion of the Reds fanbase into thinking he cares about anything other than "BP and BP getting his".

Well, some of the posters here are privy to a bit more inside info that the typical joe schmuck. Perhaps you should ask some of those folks. But for me, how about jogging to first, how about not moving runners over, how about the bickering in social media about Votto's contract and making a spectacle of himself while calling out ownership? I could go on........

 

Perhaps you should review some of the earlier threads that outline his shenanigans.

 

Has he mentioned Votto's contract this year? Not moving runners over has been a team wide problem. Jogging to first? Do we condemn Joey when he does it? There are less than a handful of guys that go all out to first every single time. They have to survive 162 game seasons. Forgive me if I don't condemn them for not busting it down the line on a weak grounder to 2nd.

 

I have read about 3/4ths of the threads concerning the Reds in their entirety. When they were trying to trade him in the offseason, sure, all for it. But he hasn't done anything wrong in 6 months. So he didn't want to talk to the media. Who cares? That stuff about management and Joey, that was out of bounds and out of line. If they traded him after that then so be it. But he's done what they've asked him to do in 2014.

Has he mentioned Votto's contract this year? Not moving runners over has been a team wide problem. Jogging to first? Do we condemn Joey when he does it? There are less than a handful of guys that go all out to first every single time. They have to survive 162 game seasons. Forgive me if I don't condemn them for not busting it down the line on a weak grounder to 2nd.

 

I have read about 3/4ths of the threads concerning the Reds in their entirety. When they were trying to trade him in the offseason, sure, all for it. But he hasn't done anything wrong in 6 months. So he didn't want to talk to the media. Who cares? That stuff about management and Joey, that was out of bounds and out of line. If they traded him after that then so be it. But he's done what they've asked him to do in 2014.

 

So are you saying you want them to hang on to an aging, declining, 2B, who's making a boatload of cash, and will be able to veto any trade they try after the deadline this year?

So are you saying you want them to hang on to an aging, declining, 2B, who's making a boatload of cash, and will be able to veto any trade they try after the deadline this year?

 

I'm saying that trading your starting 2nd Baseman when you are in the race isn't a wise move. Ever.

I'm saying that trading your starting 2nd Baseman when you are in the race isn't a wise move. Ever.

 

It is if you don't want to deal with paying a 35-36 year old dude the kind of jack BP is set to make.

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