I love how back in the day pitchers could pitch all they wanted without fear and now they are restricted to pitch counts. I've always felt like if a person was going to get hurt they'll get hurt regardless of how many pitches they throw.

Back in the day, many pitchers suffered career ending arm injuries because they were over worked on the mound. The human arm is not built to throw overhanded, and high school kids' arms are often not fully developed. Enforcing reasonable pitch count limits does not eliminate the chance of injuries, but most arm injuries occur late in games.

Huh?

 

Who said anything like that? The coach even said he talked to the kid every inning to make sure he was okay. Either way, that's besides the point. At the end of the day it's meaningless sports, it's not dangerous.

 

 

I love how back in the day pitchers could pitch all they wanted without fear and now they are restricted to pitch counts. I've always felt like if a person was going to get hurt they'll get hurt regardless of how many pitches they throw.

 

Many of those guys who can't raise their arm above their shoulder or have other structural damage that has led to decades of arthritis and other problems might wish they managed their pitching load better.

Many of those guys who can't raise their arm above their shoulder or have other structural damage that has led to decades of arthritis and other problems might wish they managed their pitching load better.

 

The same goes for anyone with a knee injury, back injury, hip injury...etc. It can't be prevented. Look how many guys are on strict pitch count limits and STILL have multiple surgeries. You play a sport, there's risk of injury. Some that may stay with you for your entire life. Everyone should know that going in.

Kid says he is mot a regular pitcher. Plays infield.

The same goes for anyone with a knee injury, back injury, hip injury...etc. It can't be prevented. Look how many guys are on strict pitch count limits and STILL have multiple surgeries. You play a sport, there's risk of injury. Some that may stay with you for your entire life. Everyone should know that going in.

 

The problem with this argument, is that with the advent of pitch counts, we have also seen increases in workloads at earlier ages. It's not uncommon for elite 9 and 10 year olds to play 100 games per year, from February through October. So over the course of their baseball career, despite pitch counts, they are still thowing more innings over longer periods of time. Nowadays, it's almost a given that most pitchers are going to have Tommy John surgery at some point in time in their life. And it's not just pitchers. There has been a significant rise in repetitive use injuries at younger ages, probably mostly due to longer seasons at earlier ages.

The same goes for anyone with a knee injury, back injury, hip injury...etc. It can't be prevented. Look how many guys are on strict pitch count limits and STILL have multiple surgeries. You play a sport, there's risk of injury. Some that may stay with you for your entire life. Everyone should know that going in.

The fact that injuries cannot be eliminated does not mean that preventive measures should not be taken. How many high school basketball teams play on concrete surfaces? Why do football teams wear helmets and pads? Why do athletes waste practice time by warming up and stretching? Baseball has its own set of best practices and one of them is that you don't ruin your pitchers by over or under working their arms.

The fact that injuries cannot be eliminated does not mean that preventive measures should not be taken. How many high school basketball teams play on concrete surfaces? Why do football teams wear helmets and pads? Why do athletes waste practice time by warming up and stretching? Baseball has its own set of best practices and one of them is that you don't ruin your pitchers by over or under working their arms.

 

No one is saying kids should go out and throw 190 on a daily basis. A kid that doesn't pitch often goes out and throws 100+ then won't throw again for a while, no big deal. There was a college kid that threw something ridiculous like 20+ innings in two days in their tournament. If they are still mechanically sound and not making changes due to fatigue, so be it.

No one is saying kids should go out and throw 190 on a daily basis. A kid that doesn't pitch often goes out and throws 100+ then won't throw again for a while, no big deal. There was a college kid that threw something ridiculous like 20+ innings in two days in their tournament. If they are still mechanically sound and not making changes due to fatigue, so be it.

It's a big deal if something snaps in their shoulder. If the kid does not pitch often, then his arm is not likely to be conditioned as well as a player in the normal rotation. There really is no defense for a coach showing this kind of poor judgment.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/high-school-senior-dylan-fosnacht-throws-194-pitches-in-14-innings-144503402.html

 

What's your thoughts?

There is a thread in Controversial Issues on this.

It's a big deal if something snaps in their shoulder. If the kid does not pitch often, then his arm is not likely to be conditioned as well as a player in the normal rotation. There really is no defense for a coach showing this kind of poor judgment.

 

But it didn't. You say conditioned. I say fatigued. Point is, it's not that big of a deal.

There is a thread in Controversial Issues on this.

 

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But it didn't. You say conditioned. I say fatigued. Point is, it's not that big of a deal.

If you dart across a freeway during rush hour and survive unscathed it does not mean that you made a good decision. The coach screwed up. He should learn from the mistake if he does not get relieved of his job.

If you dart across a freeway during rush hour and survive unscathed it does not mean that you made a good decision. The coach screwed up. He should learn from the mistake if he does not get relieved of his job.

 

So we're to the point that we're now comparing a possible arm injury to being hit by a car? Really?

So we're to the point that we're now comparing a possible arm injury to being hit by a car? Really?

No, really not. It's a metaphor. Look it up.