For the record I am holding my kid back before it starts school. That way he doesn't have to get use to classmates and then have his world changed by holding back. I am not doing it for just athletics but the main reason is maturity. When I taught MS it was easy to pick out the young kids in class.

Gotcha.

 

Held my kid back, and he had a great experience.

 

Mom didn't mind; she gets to keep her baby another year.

 

There are definitely legitimate reasons to hold a child back on a case by case basis...maybe they started way to soon and it's catching up with them and better to have them where age wise they really should be...they are really struggling academically and need the extra time...may have missed a lot of the school year because of sickness and got way behind. My stance and the stance of some others here is that athletics isn't a legitimate reason to hold a kid back and it's actually gotten quite common in parts of the state.

Athletics isn't important? You guys realize we are on a ky hs sports site arguing about a law that affects ms sports. Some of you should be on the academic team site...oh there isn't one.

 

Sports are a component of education. Sometimes more important than what happens in some classes.

My boys still ask if there is a test that they can take to get into their correct grade. It was incredibly hard for them to be held back. It was our decision and it was incredibly difficult for us to make. Neither side of the family was happy w/ us for it, but they had trouble reading. It hurt their confidence. That was in 1st grade, I couldn't imagine having to do that later on. For those that make this type of decision lightly in the hopes that their son/daughter will gain an athletic advantage, I'll just say, "There's a right way to do things, and a wrong way."

I hear you, Mex. We were advised by the school to have our son repeat 2nd grade. At the time I did not think much of it.

Turns out, one of the worst days of my life was when we told him. He did not understand. "But I was good. I only had to move my clip one time. I never got in trouble." It shook his confidence big time. He still asks me if certain old classmates "know his secret". Looking back, I don't think it really helped him academically, as he still struggles. I regret this decision all the time. I can't imagine doing it any later than 2nd or 3rd grade.

He will be 19 for most of his senior year. He does not play sports, so that part was never a consideration.

A certain school in Southern Ky let 13 6th graders stay back for basketball. If I'm not mistaken, 15 total kids stayed back for sports in that grade alone. This not only messed with the athletics side of things, but also the whole dynamic of the 6th grade class.

A certain school in Southern Ky let 13 6th graders stay back for basketball. If I'm not mistaken, 15 total kids stayed back for sports in that grade alone. This not only messed with the athletics side of things, but also the whole dynamic of the 6th grade class.

 

Well if this was last year I hope at least we see some state titles to start showing in this part of the state.. Just crazy IMO.

It was this current school year. I need to clarify after speaking with someone this morning though, one of the kids quit basketball before the first game. Another one of the kids was a hold back from an earlier year. So, there are eleven hold backs for the team for this year. Many of those kids only logged a minute or two per game during the season and some didn't get to play at all most games. This does not include the 3-4 incoming 6th graders that made the team.

Yeah probably made it better.

I was on the MS Legislative Task force in 2012 that proposed this rule to KDE. I can tell you that it was a very debated topic on both sides for and against and it was the closest vote of the recommendations from the taskforce. Surprisingly the two MS Principals on the task force voted against this rule.

I was on the MS Legislative Task force in 2012 that proposed this rule to KDE. I can tell you that it was a very debated topic on both sides for and against and it was the closest vote of the recommendations from the taskforce. Surprisingly the two MS Principals on the task force voted against this rule.

 

Why do you find it surprising?

Athletics isn't important? You guys realize we are on a ky hs sports site arguing about a law that affects ms sports. Some of you should be on the academic team site...oh there isn't one.

 

Sports are a component of education. Sometimes more important than what happens in some classes.

 

I might have missed it, but who said athletics isn't important? I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone on the board who would say they aren't important or an integral part of youth for many kids.

 

Also, it would help if you are reply back to a certain post, to "reply with quote" when you reply. Just an FYI.

I might have missed it, but who said athletics isn't important? I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone on the board who would say they aren't important or an integral part of youth for many kids.

 

Also, it would help if you are reply back to a certain post, to "reply with quote" when you reply. Just an FYI.

 

Thanks for the tip, but I was replying to the argument that the integrity of academics is being destroyed by athletic holdbacks, and athletics is just a trivial part of our world.

 

Ridiculous argument.

Thanks for the tip, but I was replying to the argument that the integrity of academics is being destroyed by athletic holdbacks, and athletics is just a trivial part of our world.

 

Ridiculous argument.

 

I think most people who are against redshirting are because it throws the balance of sports/athletics way over to the athletics side. Bottom line is this state throughout its history has been one that undervalues "book larnin" and puts way too much emphasis on athletics. It's why the C-J and Herald-Leader go overboard with sports stories on the front page of the paper. As a result, parents work harder to land their kids athletic scholarships they aren't going to get than they do for academics, then can't figure out why they can't get their education paid for.

I think most people who are against redshirting are because it throws the balance of sports/athletics way over to the athletics side. Bottom line is this state throughout its history has been one that undervalues "book larnin" and puts way too much emphasis on athletics. It's why the C-J and Herald-Leader go overboard with sports stories on the front page of the paper. As a result, parents work harder to land their kids athletic scholarships they aren't going to get than they do for academics, then can't figure out why they can't get their education paid for.

 

KY schools rank mid-twenties in US academic achievement most years. This "ain't" 30 years ago when we brought up the caboose in "book larnin." In all reality considering our population to poverty ratio our schools are working miracles.

 

Athletics give kids hope when most of the time there is none. Let's stop demonizing them. Fair to say most of us on here spend a good amount of time glorifying athletics between college and pros, but when it comes to school athletics; God forbid you want to get to a higher level.

Has anybody on here looked at enrollment numbers in colleges these days? The enrollments are nearly 60% female. Thats 3:2 for those of you that like fractions. What does this say? It says that 17 year old males are not cutting it n College. Males need an extra year of maturity before College. Two would probably be even better.

holding kids back in middle school just corrects an injustice