Not sure how that will help the kid improve his QB skills. 70% of qb play is with his feet and while pitching will help with accuracy they are totally different throws. Pitching is nothing compared to throwing on the run and avoiding pressure keeping his eyes down the field and finding an open receiver.

If being a pitcher is the only thing he's gonna do to become a better qb he'll be holding his helmet on Friday nites or Saturday mornings.

Not to hijack the thread but where did you get 70% of throwing the football is with the feet? Now the motion is different but the attitude he have to have as a pitcher does translate or at least should.

 

I have no idea about any of these kids but there are plenty of things you can do to help protect a young qb as you bring them along. I don't know the coach from Adam but I'm sure he isn't going to come in and try to slung it 30 times a game until or unless he has his qb in a good position.

Not sure how that will help the kid improve his QB skills. 70% of qb play is with his feet and while pitching will help with accuracy they are totally different throws. Pitching is nothing compared to throwing on the run and avoiding pressure keeping his eyes down the field and finding an open receiver.

If being a pitcher is the only thing he's gonna do to become a better qb he'll be holding his helmet on Friday nites or Saturday mornings.

 

Nah, nothing to do with it. Three out of the final 4 QB's were drafted to the 'show'. The QB of the Super Bowl champs was a baseball player, I'm sure he probably pitched a good deal in his younger days. Our Heisman Trophy winner doubles up as a pitcher.

 

Obviously, we'll just agree to disagree here, but I personally know a handful of high school and former college starting (some were record breaking QB's in the collegiate levels at their school & some conference records), who have all said that one of the best things they did for accuracy and arm strength in their younger days was playing baseball, in particular, pitching.

 

There are some differences, no doubt.

Not to hijack the thread but where did you get 70% of throwing the football is with the feet? Now the motion is different but the attitude he have to have as a pitcher does translate or at least should.

 

I have no idea about any of these kids but there are plenty of things you can do to help protect a young qb as you bring them along. I don't know the coach from Adam but I'm sure he isn't going to come in and try to slung it 30 times a game until or unless he has his qb in a good position.

 

This.

 

That.

 

And, well...everything else you said.

How does pitching help a qb?

 

I typed my original post about baseball from my phone. Didn't feel like elaborating.

 

But, Barrel said a good part of it from the mental toughness aspect. You show me a high school kid, with some tools, who is a pretty good pitcher..and, doesn't break under pressure & I'll show you a potentially good HS QB.

 

I don't know the exact numbers, but I BET if you look at all of the NFL and College QB's, that baseball and pitching is in their background.

How does pitching help a qb?

 

I typed my original post about baseball from my phone. Didn't feel like elaborating.

 

But, Barrel said a good part of it from the mental toughness aspect. You show me a high school kid, with some tools, who is a pretty good pitcher..and, doesn't break under pressure & I'll show you a potentially good HS QB.

 

I don't know the exact numbers, but I BET if you look at all of the NFL and College QB's, that baseball and pitching is in their background.

Nah, nothing to do with it. Three out of the final 4 QB's were drafted. The QB of the Super Bowl champs was a baseball player. Our Heisman Trophy winner doubles up as a pitcher.

 

Obviously, we'll just agree to disagree here, but I personally know a handful of high school and former college starting (some record breaking QB's), who have all said that one of the best things they did for accuracy and arm strength in their younger days was playing baseball, in particular, pitching.

 

There are some differences, no doubt.

 

First never said being a baseball would not help the young man. 2nd if you don't think footwork has something to do with throwing the football your sadly mistaken. My point is while baseball will help with accuracy, which I did state in my post, if that is the ONLY thing the young man is going to do to improve he won't meet his full development potential. And as for your comment about pass rushing in the off season, absolutely it can be simulated. You've let me know just how much you know about the position if playing baseball is the only thing he needs to do to improve at playing QB.

First never said being a baseball would not help the young man. 2nd if you don't think footwork has something to do with throwing the football your sadly mistaken. My point is while baseball will help with accuracy, which I did state in my post, if that is the ONLY thing the young man is going to do to improve he won't meet his full development potential. And as for your comment about pass rushing in the off season, absolutely it can be simulated. You've let me know just how much you know about the position if playing baseball is the only thing he needs to do to improve at playing QB.

 

Where did I say it was the ONLY thing? Do I think it's one of the BEST things a Middle School/ high school kid can do? Absolutely....especially at THAT age.

 

And if you think a pass rush in March with a coach and/or a player running after the kid with no threat of being smacked in the face, then you've let me know exactly how much you don't know about the position...since you want to go there.

 

YOU are the one that got on the "only" thing. Not me.

Pitching helps with arm strength more than anything else as well as helps learn to throw with your legs.

 

A QB technique involves everything from footwork, to (if you are a right handed QB) where your left elbow should be pointing to where your front foot should be pointing to your release point etc.

 

A lot of different techniques plays into it just like a pitcher. Although the throwing action is different, many of the same things are used in both positions in each sport.

England playing TE would be ridiculous. I hope for Englands sake, you don't join Coach Engler's staff.

Care to elaborate?

No one said footwork isn't important. 70% important? That is really going to depend on how broad you want to make the category of footwork. Footwork is only as important to throwing the ball as it relates to preventing the hips from locking and allowing the arm to get to the zero position. Past that over striding but that is more of a power issue than accuracy.

Pitching helps with arm strength more than anything else as well as helps learn to throw with your legs.

 

A QB technique involves everything from footwork, to (if you are a right handed QB) where your left elbow should be pointing to where your front foot should be pointing to your release point etc.

 

A lot of different techniques plays into it just like a pitcher. Although the throwing action is different, many of the same things are used in both positions in each sport.

 

 

This as well, HB.

 

Dang...somebody remind me next time to elaborate a reasoning a little more on my phone the next time I'm sweating bullets on a treadmill, in b/t an interval workout.

 

Thought I shot the president there for a bit or something.

He is only listed 6'1 185 on the basketball roster kind of small for a TE.

Have you seen him play? He's very strong and has great hands. Not the fastest kid but fast enough. 6 1 and hopefully still growing. I think he is great in open space when he played some WR and has the size to be a nice blocker also at TE.

 

Now AlbertFT apparently is very closed minded but for those of us who have watched him play understand what he can do.

First never said being a baseball would not help the young man. 2nd if you don't think footwork has something to do with throwing the football your sadly mistaken. My point is while baseball will help with accuracy, which I did state in my post, if that is the ONLY thing the young man is going to do to improve he won't meet his full development potential. And as for your comment about pass rushing in the off season, absolutely it can be simulated. You've let me know just how much you know about the position if playing baseball is the only thing he needs to do to improve at playing QB.

 

It can be simulated, but it's not exact.....hell, nothing is for that fact...even my baseball comment (which I cant stand to watch by the way).

There is a very important aspect of playing QB hasn't been mentioned yet.

 

You must be very cerebral to be a succesful QB as well.

First never said being a baseball would not help the young man. 2nd if you don't think footwork has something to do with throwing the football your sadly mistaken. My point is while baseball will help with accuracy, which I did state in my post, if that is the ONLY thing the young man is going to do to improve he won't meet his full development potential. And as for your comment about pass rushing in the off season, absolutely it can be simulated. You've let me know just how much you know about the position if playing baseball is the only thing he needs to do to improve at playing QB.

 

It can be simulated, but it's not exact.....hell, nothing is for that fact...even my baseball comment (which I cant stand to watch by the way).