Just about every game thread brings up officiating as a factor in the game. I have only seen a couple of high school boys games this year, and I am somewhat amazed on how the games are called. A lot of physical play seems to be ignored, lending to an almost brawlike atmosphere during play. I was told by an active 9th region official, that a directive to let play become more physical came down a few years ago. They wanted to mirror the way games were called at the Sweet 16. I guess my question is, have the officials let the play get to rough. Does this brand of basketball help our 9th region teams down state? I do know this, this kind of officiating lends to a sloppy brand of basketball that is hard to watch.

It was too rough in the LexCath-Scott County game last night. A lot of obvious fous went uncalled, particularly in the open court while each team was pressing. Over the back calls were practically nonexistent. Hand checks were ok. Bumping was ok. Pushing for position under the basket....ok.

If the game continues too far in this direction we're going to see an increase in injuries, imo.

 

The advantages in games that are officiated like this are to the teams who are physical to begin with, and have deep benches.

It was too rough in the LexCath-Scott County game last night. A lot of obvious fous went uncalled, particularly in the open court while each team was pressing. Over the back calls were practically nonexistent. Hand checks were ok. Bumping was ok. Pushing for position under the basket....ok.

If the game continues too far in this direction we're going to see an increase in injuries, imo.

 

The advantages in games that are officiated like this are to the teams who are physical to begin with, and have deep benches.

 

The games in the 11th Region that I have seen this year are in fact called that way in each and every game (no blood, no foul, or even with blood, no foul). I think what the problem is at least in the Ninth Region is the Ref's call the games different from night to night depending on who is playing, with no consistency at all in their understanding of the rules. Why they just can’t call the game, following the rules of the game, is beyond me, instead of trying to call the game, by who is playing in the game, or who is coaching in the game………

 

The job is tough no doubt, but sometimes, they only have themselves to blame, for the heat they take........

Complainig, Complainig, Complaining! There is always going to be a disagrement because the call can only go one way.

Complainig, Complainig, Complaining! There is always going to be a disagrement because the call can only go one way.

No one was really complaining last night that I could see. There wasn't enough "calls" made to complain about.

Now...as far as no-calls, well, that's a different story. LexCath's coach did finally pick up a T in the 2nd half, but other than that, the crowd and the coaches seem to not get too excited over the way it was called. One reason was it was fairly consistent. Another reason is they have become accustomed to officials allowing physical play.

It's just that I'm not familiar with that type of officiating. If refs from the mountains had called the game it would have lasted forever, or until they finally got the message across that "either back off and play defense by the rules, or every player both teams have will be finish the game watching from the bench with 5 fouls." Teams will usually adapt to the officials if they call the fouls, and you will see less of this bumping, pushing, and hand checking.

Give me the 10th over the 9th any day. Some of the 9th guys act like they have never been to a game.

I have noticed quite the opposite from refs in the 14th region. Not that they are any better by any stretch of the imagintination but I keep seeing petty bumps called for fouls and hand checks when the game should be continued. I also have a problem with charges being called under the goal - which happens quite frequently in Eastern Kentucky.

I have noticed quite the opposite from refs in the 14th region. Not that they are any better by any stretch of the imagintination but I keep seeing petty bumps called for fouls and hand checks when the game should be continued. I also have a problem with charges being called under the goal - which happens quite frequently in Eastern Kentucky.

I have witnessed the same thing in the 14th. They are letting them play a lot more this year than in the past. I understand from talking to current 14th refs that that has been a point of emphasis this season, so the 14th rep at the state tournament will be better prepared to play teams from other parts of the state.

 

But what I saw last night between Scott County and LexCath pales in comparsion to what I see in the 14th. The 11th allows WAY more physical play than any of the mountain regions. it's definitely 'no blood, no foul'......and sometimes 'no broken arm, no foul'. :lol:

Have there been a bunch of injuries or fights? If not, Play Ball! I doubt it is as bad as some of you guys describe.

Give me the 10th over the 9th any day. Some of the 9th guys act like they have never been to a game.

 

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Some of the guys in the 9th think they ARE the game!

Just about every game thread brings up officiating as a factor in the game. I have only seen a couple of high school boys games this year, and I am somewhat amazed on how the games are called. A lot of physical play seems to be ignored, lending to an almost brawlike atmosphere during play. I was told by an active 9th region official, that a directive to let play become more physical came down a few years ago. They wanted to mirror the way games were called at the Sweet 16. I guess my question is, have the officials let the play get to rough. Does this brand of basketball help our 9th region teams down state? I do know this, this kind of officiating lends to a sloppy brand of basketball that is hard to watch.

 

I think you are correct in that they are allowing them to be more physical because the 9th region has always been considered the patsys downstate in the Sweet 16. I also think that the rough play is originated in the AAU leagues across the state. My first year watching my boy play AAU I was amazed at the football-like atmosphere on the court and the fact that the referees are all 9th region Frosh/JV and sometimes Varsity officials working AAU on the side. Now in my boy's 2nd year I understand, it toughens the kids up. If you had to stop the game everytime someone gets handchecked or bumped.. it would turn into a FT shooting contest. I say let the physical play continue.

I think you are correct in that they are allowing them to be more physical because the 9th region has always been considered the patsys downstate in the Sweet 16. I also think that the rough play is originated in the AAU leagues across the state. My first year watching my boy play AAU I was amazed at the football-like atmosphere on the court and the fact that the referees are all 9th region Frosh/JV and sometimes Varsity officials working AAU on the side. Now in my boy's 2nd year I understand, it toughens the kids up. If you had to stop the game everytime someone gets handchecked or bumped.. it would turn into a FT shooting contest. I say let the physical play continue.

I don't mind physical play as long it doesn't dominate the game. I agree that for the younger kids you have to let things go, but as they progress I think it needs to be tightened up a bit.

I think you are correct in that they are allowing them to be more physical because the 9th region has always been considered the patsys downstate in the Sweet 16. I also think that the rough play is originated in the AAU leagues across the state. My first year watching my boy play AAU I was amazed at the football-like atmosphere on the court and the fact that the referees are all 9th region Frosh/JV and sometimes Varsity officials working AAU on the side. Now in my boy's 2nd year I understand, it toughens the kids up. If you had to stop the game everytime someone gets handchecked or bumped.. it would turn into a FT shooting contest. I say let the physical play continue.

 

 

Spoken like a true fan of a team, with a ton of football players on it.

 

Stick to the rules of the game, as they are written, and quit trying to play the game like it is played in the NBA, for that style of play, should never be called, basketball.....

If basketball was all shooting... it'd be one fun game...

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Contact is needed for a good game of basketball. This isn't KET.

No one was really complaining last night that I could see. There wasn't enough "calls" made to complain about.

Now...as far as no-calls, well, that's a different story. LexCath's coach did finally pick up a T in the 2nd half, but other than that, the crowd and the coaches seem to not get too excited over the way it was called. One reason was it was fairly consistent. Another reason is they have become accustomed to officials allowing physical play.

It's just that I'm not familiar with that type of officiating. If refs from the mountains had called the game it would have lasted forever, or until they finally got the message across that "either back off and play defense by the rules, or every player both teams have will be finish the game watching from the bench with 5 fouls." Teams will usually adapt to the officials if they call the fouls, and you will see less of this bumping, pushing, and hand checking.

 

Didn't I read in the thread that Scott Co. made 23 of 27 free throws? That seems like quite a lot. Someone else told me it was bonus in first half and double bonus both ways in 2nd half?