If someone can tell me that legalizing it takes away the gateway to the other drugs (cocaine' date=' heroine esp.), I will support legalization 100%.[/quote']

 

People are infinitesimally more likely to want a bump or two after knocking down a 12-pack of beer than smoking a joint.

People are infinitesimally more likely to want a bump or two after knocking down a 12-pack of beer than smoking a joint.

In your opinion...pretty sure there is no hard data that beer is more of a gateway drug to cocaine than pot...more likely beer is a gateway to whiskey or tequila maybe.

I'll never believe that marijuana is a gateway to other drugs. I believe that the people a person surrounds themselves with defines their drug use more than anything else.

 

There are other drugs with severe addictions, overdose risks, and who knows what other health concerns. "Gateway drug" sounds like something someone made up because they couldn't think of anything frightening enough for marijuana.

People are infinitesimally more likely to want a bump or two after knocking down a 12-pack of beer than smoking a joint.

 

Agreed, alcohol is more of a gateway drug than pot IMO.

There are other drugs with severe addictions, overdose risks, and who knows what other health concerns. "Gateway drug" sounds like something someone made up because they couldn't think of anything frightening enough for marijuana.

 

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It's basically a myth, much like most propaganda surrounding marijuana.

I'm also going to guess Denver is in complete turmoil right now, total chaos across the state of Colorado.

 

...........No?

 

 

I think the only problem they've had since legalization is that they ran out of pot.

In your opinion...pretty sure there is no hard data that beer is more of a gateway drug to cocaine than pot...more likely beer is a gateway to whiskey or tequila maybe.

 

Let's put it another way: Weed chills you out, while coke makes you want to do things really, really, really fast. They couldn't be more different as far as the affect on a person. What would be the point of going from one extreme to another like that and/or mixing the two?

 

Here's a test for you: Go to any nightclub where young, fairly well-to-do urban adults might hang out. Go to the toilet stalls and tell me what you find sitting on top of the toilet paper dispenser. Bet it ain't grass.

In your opinion...pretty sure there is no hard data that beer is more of a gateway drug to cocaine than pot...more likely beer is a gateway to whiskey or tequila maybe.

 

 

 

Philip Seymour Hoffman -- A Single Drink Ultimately Led to Death | TMZ.com

Majority of the NFL players smoke weed.

Majority of the NBA players smoke weed.

Majority of the NHL players drink beer.

Majority of the MLB players take PED's.

 

In other words, rich black people smoke weed and rich white people are too fat.

I don't have a strong feeling personally either way. I choose not to look for stress relief by chemical means. By the same token, I don't believe in a judgemental society...I am more for responsible free choice.

 

So, if pot is not a gateway drug, and pot is not addictive and pot is not harmful why is it illegal? A former best friend of one of my sons became dependent on pot, and ultimately this young man's addictions almost killed him. The mother stated she was going to write a book entitled "It's Only Pot", which was a common reply of her son to her when their family was battling this issue. The young man digressed into other drugs including LSD.

 

IF pot was legal, would this be 1) more likely; 2) less likely; 3) no impact; on a situation such as theirs?

I don't have a strong feeling personally either way. I choose not to look for stress relief by chemical means. By the same token, I don't believe in a judgemental society...I am more for responsible free choice.

 

So, if pot is not a gateway drug, and pot is not addictive and pot is not harmful why is it illegal? A former best friend of one of my sons became dependent on pot, and ultimately this young man's addictions almost killed him. The mother stated she was going to write a book entitled "It's Only Pot", which was a common reply of her son to her when their family was battling this issue. The young man digressed into other drugs including LSD.

 

IF pot was legal, would this be 1) more likely; 2) less likely; 3) no impact; on a situation such as theirs?

 

State-sponsored harassment of blacks and Mexicans in the 1920s. It continues today because of the lobbying efforts of the paper, tobacco, lumber, alcohol and other industries, as well as because a whole lot of people subscribe to the silly "Reefer Madness" notions about it.

I don't have a strong feeling personally either way. I choose not to look for stress relief by chemical means. By the same token' date=' I don't believe in a judgemental society...I am more for responsible free choice. So, if pot is not a gateway drug, and pot is not addictive and pot is not harmful why is it illegal? A former best friend of one of my sons became dependent on pot, and ultimately this young man's addictions almost killed him. The mother stated she was going to write a book entitled "It's Only Pot", which was a common reply of her son to her when their family was battling this issue. The young man digressed into other drugs including LSD. IF pot was legal, would this be 1) more likely; 2) less likely; 3) no impact; on a situation such as theirs?[/quote']

 

No offense to your sons friend or his parent a but I seriously doubt a "pot addiction" almost killed him. If the kid was in that bad of shape then he must have been doing a lot of other stuff than just pot. A lot of times drug addicts won't admit they're addicted to drugs so if the kid was on pills or heroin per say it's not out of the realm of possibility to say oh no I just smoke pot (since pot is not criticized as much).

 

Just my two cents again I do not know the family like you do. I just doubt he had life threatening issues due to pot and only pot. More going on there it seems, much more....

State-sponsored harassment of blacks and Mexicans in the 1920s. It continues today because of the lobbying efforts of the paper' date=' tobacco, lumber, alcohol and other industries, as well as because a whole lot of people subscribe to the silly "Reefer Madness" notions about it.[/quote']

 

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Mexican workers in southwest border states during the depression era were taking all of the available jobs and essentially worked for nothing and cut out all those in need of jobs. Due to their culture marijuana was a common thing among these workers a vast percentage smoked or consumed. So to send them back south of the border these states passed strict marijuana laws, some of the early ones called for life sentences and other harsh punishments, deportation , etc. Thus marijuana laws were passed for alteriior motives not just because it was such a horrifying drug.

 

Then the reefer madness campaign came out and took propaganda to a whole another level. IMO it is responsible for our society's perception on the plant now. People's grandparents and parents subscribed to the propaganda and took it as the gospel when in reality it was fairly fabricated and misinformation. Now we have been trying for decades to right the wrongs of Harry J Anslinger and all those who started the trend.

State-sponsored harassment of blacks and Mexicans in the 1920s. It continues today because of the lobbying efforts of the paper, tobacco, lumber, alcohol and other industries, as well as because a whole lot of people subscribe to the silly "Reefer Madness" notions about it.

 

I'll add that it used to be legal in the United States and it was popularly known as cannabis. That it's now known as marijuana is a legacy of its prohibition as a program to target Mexican immigrants.