June 8, 201313 yr If that's what you got out of the post you quoted, well, your reading comprehension is lacking and I don't know what to tell you. Criticizing law enforcement personnel who screw up is not "bashing" them. I'm just pointing out that those guys and gals, as enforcers of the laws of the land, should be held to a higher standard than Average Joe Citizen. You said that he, UK and I were always against what the officers do. You are real quick to judge us. I haven't ever said that officers are always in the wrong. I will, however, post and speak out when I think someone abuses their authority. Police officers have people's lives in their hands. If they are wrong someone can die--including the officers. Thankfully that wasn't the case here. However, these officers abused their authority and were dismissed for it. You say that the accused "disregarded a lawful order" and suffered the consequences. Then why were the officers dismissed and the charges dropped? Sounds like the accused was trying to exercise her rights and was denied them. The officers were found to be in the wrong, not her. I admire police officers and the job that they do. They are not perfect however, and when they mess up they have to be accountable. The job I work requires that we do it properly or people will be injured or die. Not one or two but potentially hundreds. I don't get a mulligan. Police officers shouldn't either. Sorry to keep dragging you into these dust-ups.
June 8, 201313 yr So what do you think, Rocket? Would you have ran up there, grabbed her by the hair and slammed her on the desk? How about if you'd have been the 3rd officer, would you have testified to what you saw or would you have played dumb? There's a reason why as soon as I walk into booking I'm uncuffing and getting outta dodge. Jailers don't always play with a full deck :lol2: Honestly I've not seen the video and probably won't. The longer I do it, the more I subscribe to the thought of "doesn't concern me, so I'll stay out of it." This does seem "major", but some incidents I feel are less severe, such as that UK officer. He wasn't outta work long and I said then I felt he should get some remedial training and maybe a brief suspension. Obviously I wasn't the only one who thought it wasn't career threatening. But this incident, I'm not touching with a 10 ft pole. It's one thing to use a bunch of force when it's "one on one" on the street and then it's fight to win, not fight fair. Not sure why all the force on this one though. Something's can't be defended. Sounds like this is one of them times...
June 8, 201313 yr There's a reason why as soon as I walk into booking I'm uncuffing and getting outta dodge. Jailers don't always play with a full deck :lol2: Honestly I've not seen the video and probably won't. The longer I do it, the more I subscribe to the thought of "doesn't concern me, so I'll stay out of it." This does seem "major", but some incidents I feel are less severe, such as that UK officer. He wasn't outta work long and I said then I felt he should get some remedial training and maybe a brief suspension. Obviously I wasn't the only one who thought it wasn't career threatening. But this incident, I'm not touching with a 10 ft pole. It's one thing to use a bunch of force when it's "one on one" on the street and then it's fight to win, not fight fair. Not sure why all the force on this one though. Something's can't be defended. Sounds like this is one of them times... And that's my thoughts as well. I've got several friends that are LEOs. I can't think of a single one of them that would have acted that way. Some people just don't have the proper temperment for the job.
June 8, 201313 yr There's a reason why as soon as I walk into booking I'm uncuffing and getting outta dodge. Jailers don't always play with a full deck :lol2: Good Point! Sometimes there is a reason someone is working in the jail instead of on the street.
June 8, 201313 yr You said that he, UK and I were always against what the officers do. You are real quick to judge us. I haven't ever said that officers are always in the wrong. I will, however, post and speak out when I think someone abuses their authority. Police officers have people's lives in their hands. If they are wrong someone can die--including the officers. Thankfully that wasn't the case here. However, these officers abused their authority and were dismissed for it. You say that the accused "disregarded a lawful order" and suffered the consequences. Then why were the officers dismissed and the charges dropped? Sounds like the accused was trying to exercise her rights and was denied them. The officers were found to be in the wrong, not her. I admire police officers and the job that they do. They are not perfect however, and when they mess up they have to be accountable. The job I work requires that we do it properly or people will be injured or die. Not one or two but potentially hundreds. I don't get a mulligan. Police officers shouldn't either. I can live with that. I also will be the first to condemn someone when they are in the wrong, but I also will not be the first to form a lynch mob knowing what type of stress these types of jobs entail unless I feel the parties involved were totally out of hand which in thhis case I don't think that.
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