The end is almost a knock out punch.

 

The end is almost a knock out punch.

Mitch better go to Plan C the way he's dropping in the polls.

Mitch better go to Plan C the way he's dropping in the polls.

Any links to reliable polls that show him dropping fast? Most in state polls show him with a firm lead..

Any links to reliable polls that show him dropping fast? Most in state polls show him with a firm lead..

 

I believe what TTP is referring to is going into this election, his lead isn't near as overwhelming as it has been in the past few elections he has been in. This is giving the Dem's hope but no one really seems interested. Conway, Abramson, and others all have their eyes on the Governors seat. Beshear would probably like to have another shot at Mitch but the timing of his term as Gov and the Senate election just doesn't work out for him and I cannot see him leaving the Governor's office early. I know some do it but, just can't see him doing it.

Any links to reliable polls that show him dropping fast? Most in state polls show him with a firm lead..

PPP poll of 5/28 quoted in Huffpost shows Mitch in a tie with Grimes, which represents a 4 point swing to the down side for MM, I believe. Grimes is waiting to see how much $$ the Dems will contribute to the race -- and, just as important -- how many times Bill and Hill campaign for her here in the Bluegrass State before she says "yes!"

PPP poll of 5/28 quoted in Huffpost shows Mitch in a tie with Grimes, which represents a 4 point swing to the down side for MM, I believe. Grimes is waiting to see how much $$ the Dems will contribute to the race -- and, just as important -- how many times Bill and Hill campaign for her here in the Bluegrass State before she says "yes!"

 

If Grimes or whoever runs against Mitch is able to stay reasonably close in the polls, we may not be able to keep Bill and the Hildebeast out of KY. The Dems would LOVE to see Mitch fall, especially in a Red State (red on a national level atleast). They would love that even more than the defeat of Rick Santorum back in 2008. I think 2008. If the dems are smart, they will keep Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. out of KY up to the election.

Dems in KY have the same problem the Republican's have had in national elections recently, nobody decent willing to run against Mitch. Add the recent problems with this administration and I think you'll see the same results we've had in the past.

Dems in KY have the same problem the Republican's have had in national elections recently, nobody decent willing to run against Mitch. Add the recent problems with this administration and I think you'll see the same results we've had in the past.

 

 

I think the stronger Dems look at the Governor's Office as a much more winnable office and see it as a way to get them in position to run for the Senate in 4/8 years.

I think the stronger Dems look at the Governor's Office as a much more winnable office and see it as a way to get them in position to run for the Senate in 4/8 years.

 

As long as Obama is an office there will not be a Democrat elected senator in the Bluegrass. As bad as Mitch may be at times I'd take him over Harry Reid in charge any day of the week.

The problem Mitch has is he says things about the Obama administration that others are afraid to say.

The problem Mitch has is he says things about the Obama administration that others are afraid to say.

 

Generally those things are said by politicians who are deemed "Untouchable", ie there is no worry about them being defeated and losing their seat to the opposition. Mitch historically has held that position and could pretty much say what those GOPers not so "Untouchable" could not say. The question now is, is Mitch still so untouchable???

As long as Obama is an office there will not be a Democrat elected senator in the Bluegrass.

 

There is alot of truth to that. Anne Northup proved that being on the same team as an unpopular president makes winning reelection more difficult. (George W. Bush's unpopularity cost Anne reelection more so than John Yarmuth). It didn't hurt Yarmuth has deep pockets and was already a well known name in Louisville before the election. Many say the only way to beat Yarmuth in liberal Louisville would be for a deep pocketed well known GOPer to run against him. Patti Swope has been brought up, I doubt she would win the the election would be as entertaining as a three ring circus.

Generally those things are said by politicians who are deemed "Untouchable", ie there is no worry about them being defeated and losing their seat to the opposition. Mitch historically has held that position and could pretty much say what those GOPers not so "Untouchable" could not say. The question now is, is Mitch still so untouchable???

No. Mitch is beatable. Grimes' best bet to win (if she chooses to run) is to put Mitch's congressional record of obstructionism under the microscope. Congress' approval numbers are pathetic. Mitch's easiest road to victory is to cast the election as Mitch vs. Reid-Obama. Hence, this election could come down to money, and the Dems no doubt are weighing what happens if Rove's PAC comes to Mitch's rescue.

 

The wild card in all of this is whether Hillary-Bill want to invest the time and potential loss of face should Mitch prevail.

 

Right now, I would rate Grimes' odds of pulling a huge upset win at less than 50 percent.

Generally those things are said by politicians who are deemed "Untouchable", ie there is no worry about them being defeated and losing their seat to the opposition. Mitch historically has held that position and could pretty much say what those GOPers not so "Untouchable" could not say. The question now is, is Mitch still so untouchable???

 

He's not untouchable but a loss would seem improbable.

I feel that the Dems in Kentucky (with Obama weighing them down) do not think he is vulnerable despite what polls may say. If they thought so, they would not be looking at Plan F at this point. No one wants to take him on.