Kelly's offense was very run heavy. It was closer to what the Bengals ran in 1988, w/ the exception that it was even faster. I can't imagine playing like that the whole game. Even at it's best, your defense will be on the field 35+ minutes a game. That's not conducive to post season success.

 

This is one reason I think he migh thave to adjust is roster size. In college the roster size is so much larger they could rotate a large amount of players on defense. Just not going to be able to do that in the NFL.

I keep coming back to the fact that...he never got it all the way done in the NCAA, he ran into a big strong physical team and got beat....Auburn, Stanford, etc.... I think the presence of the Defensive lineman you have in the pro's and the ability to run so many types of defense and coverages...will make him have to change some if not cause him to be back in College in about 5 years.

 

Harbaugh never won it all in college and he nearly won a Super Bowl. In Kelly's one matchup with the SEC in a bowl he lost on a last secon FG while most other schools have been destroyed. Argument makes no sense. He's obviously not going to run the Oregon offense verbatim in the NFL.

Harbaugh never won it all in college and he nearly won a Super Bowl. In Kelly's one matchup with the SEC in a bowl he lost on a last secon FG while most other schools have been destroyed. Argument makes no sense. He's obviously not going to run the Oregon offense verbatim in the NFL.

 

Makes sense to me and alot of other folks....I just do not think it will transfer to the NFL and if he changes it...then that proves my point.

 

As for the Patriots they have Tom Brady, I think we all would agree that there is not very many of him around. Big test for Chip will be getting the kind of defense that can transfer this system into wins...

The way teams like San Fran, Seattle, and Washington are now utilizing a more zone read type scheme makes you think Kelly may be able to do something that sticks in the NFL. The game is already changing through guys like RG3 and Kaepernick, so he may be just in time to the party.

Harbaugh never won it all in college and he nearly won a Super Bowl. In Kelly's one matchup with the SEC in a bowl he lost on a last secon FG while most other schools have been destroyed. Argument makes no sense. He's obviously not going to run the Oregon offense verbatim in the NFL.

 

Wasn't that one matchup in the title game their lowest scoring output of the year and by a big margin? So yes the argument does make sense in the fact that people think these bigger and faster defensive lineman will stop that style of offense in the Pro's.

 

With that said I think he will keep the fast paced offense, but he will change the type of things he runs to fit the NFL better. I think he will do well.

The way teams like San Fran, Seattle, and Washington are now utilizing a more zone read type scheme makes you think Kelly may be able to do something that sticks in the NFL. The game is already changing through guys like RG3 and Kaepernick, so he may be just in time to the party.

When you watch the film of the three teams mentioned only Washington actually ran the zone read. The other two when you see the qb run it they were designed qb runs, based on how the play was blocked up front. In the Superbowl if Colin was reading it he was horrible at the read because if he would have pulled it on most of the so called read plays he rips the Ravens.

Wasn't that one matchup in the title game their lowest scoring output of the year and by a big margin? So yes the argument does make sense in the fact that people think these bigger and faster defensive lineman will stop that style of offense in the Pro's.

 

With that said I think he will keep the fast paced offense, but he will change the type of things he runs to fit the NFL better. I think he will do well.

 

If you'll remember back to that game Oregon figured out how to move the ball on Auburn. They started out very slowly which could have been adjusting to SEC size and speed or could have been from a Fifty day layoff. Of course they weren't going to score 60 on the SEC champ but they moved the ball and scored enough to have an extremely good shot at winning the game.

Makes sense to me and alot of other folks....I just do not think it will transfer to the NFL and if he changes it...then that proves my point.

 

As for the Patriots they have Tom Brady, I think we all would agree that there is not very many of him around. Big test for Chip will be getting the kind of defense that can transfer this system into wins...

 

So losing in the championship by a fluke run and last second FG makes him less of a coach. Hopefully you don't judge your local high school coaches that way.

 

The offense will have to change some, but a lot will stay the same. He'll run inside and outside zone, maybe with a read. His play action game is really strong. Most coaches quick game is the same or similar. But I'd imagine his passing game will be a lot more complex.

 

He's one of the best zone coaches in the game and that definitely translates to the NFL. Don't know that he'll be Harbaugh but I bet Ed way better than Spurrier was.

If you'll remember back to that game Oregon figured out how to move the ball on Auburn. They started out very slowly which could have been adjusting to SEC size and speed or could have been from a Fifty day layoff. Of course they weren't going to score 60 on the SEC champ but they moved the ball and scored enough to have an extremely good shot at winning the game.

 

Did they even score 20 points? I can't remember the score. Less than 20 points is not a good thing, especially in the NFL. They had a good shot at winning the game not because of their offense, but because of their defense actually. They did a good job slowing down Newton.

 

As I said I don't think a lot of the offensive plays he ran will work so well in the Pro's. However I do think his uptempo style will work, with some slight adjustments to his offense.

Did they even score 20 points? I can't remember the score. Less than 20 points is not a good thing, especially in the NFL. They had a good shot at winning the game not because of their offense, but because of their defense actually. They did a good job slowing down Newton.

 

As I said I don't think a lot of the offensive plays he ran will work so well in the Pro's. However I do think his uptempo style will work, with some slight adjustments to his offense.

 

Why won't zone runs work? Teams already run them.

The speed that Oregon used to attack was the real Chip Kelly philosophy. They were at the line and 100% ready to run a play as soon as the ball was placed a majority of the time. If he is able to use that pace with NFL level talent then you have a system that changes the NFL. With Kelly it has very little to do with the "spread" outside of getting back to the line is easier with a bunch of really fast and athletic guys at every position...

Actually Chip Kelly's offense at Oregon wasn't that much different than Sam Wyche's here in Cincinnati. Hurrying up to the line before the defense can make substitutions and get set etc. The problem was the NFL didn't like that and made rule changes to prevent that type of offense. The bills stole Wyche's offense and Chip Kelly's isn't that much different in that aspect. So I will be curious to see if the NFL will allow it or make even more rules to keep the hurry up style of offense from being ran for an entire game.

Actually Chip Kelly's offense at Oregon wasn't that much different than Sam Wyche's here in Cincinnati. Hurrying up to the line before the defense can make substitutions and get set etc. The problem was the NFL didn't like that and made rule changes to prevent that type of offense. The bills stole Wyche's offense and Chip Kelly's isn't that much different in that aspect. So I will be curious to see if the NFL will allow it or make even more rules to keep the hurry up style of offense from being ran for an entire game.

 

The only similarity was that they did not huddle. Chip Kelly's offense is in warp speed compared to the Bengals, IMO. From what I understand you only have to let the defense substitute if the offense substitutes.

Why won't zone runs work? Teams already run them.

 

Didn't say they wouldn't work, but probably not as well. As DoubleDuece already point out, only Washington ran true zone read stuff. Which as we seen how that offense in the NFL is bad for your QB. Even as someone as good as RG3 took a beating last year doing it. Yes there was some success, but ultimately you get your QB in rough shape with that.

 

Just look at who Chip Kelly drafted at QB. I think that shows he is aware that the plays he ran in the NFL probably wouldn't fit as well in the NFL, which is why he drafted Matt Barkley who is a true drop back QB. They could still run the fast pace offense with him in the future, but it won't be with the same plays. They will use some zone read stuff this year, but it won't be like did in college IMO.

The only similarity was that they did not huddle. Chip Kelly's offense is in warp speed compared to the Bengals, IMO. From what I understand you only have to let the defense substitute if the offense substitutes.

 

Its crazy how fast they were able to get the play in, and people lined up as fast as they did on such a consistent basis. That Oregon offense sure was fun to watch.