May 21, 201313 yr Good parenting. No problems here. Why is everyone so sensitive about hurting the psyche of this girl being the "bully"? Parents aren't supposed to be friends. I think that lots of parents are going the friend route instead of actually parenting their children and disciplining them when it needs to be done.
May 21, 201313 yr Good parenting. No problems here. Why is everyone so sensitive about hurting the psyche of this girl being the "bully"? Parents aren't supposed to be friends. I think that lots of parents are going the friend route instead of actually parenting their children and disciplining them when it needs to be done. That's not directed at you "UK"...it is more of a general statement based off of what i see daily from kids today and their parents.
May 21, 201313 yr This is (hopefully) the final post I'll make in this thread.... We ALL agree that bullying is wrong, period. Doing this, hopefully will lead the daughter to see things from the bullied kid's perspective and quit the bullying. However, an unintended (and IMO probable) outcome is that the daughter will be bullied for wearing these clothes. If that's the case this discipline has fallen well short of it's intended target IMO. If bullying is wrong, it's wrong in all cases. Regardless of how much the bullied person deserves it or doesn't. We can't say bullying is okay as long as you pick on someone who's picking on others. That will just create a never-ending cycle of bullying.
May 21, 201313 yr Bullying a bully is every bit as wrong as what the bully is doing. Never heard stories of a bully sitting down with their victim to explain to them what they're doing and why they don't like it. Then, after the victim continues to do the things the bully warned them about, the bully acts on it. Apples and hand grenades. Especially considering a parent is an authority figure and the child STILL did not respect her authority.
May 21, 201313 yr No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying she's putting her in a position to get bullied by other kids. I can almost guarantee she's not the only student that was bullying others for their clothes. Now she's more likely to get the same treatment from others. Is it deserved? Maybe so, but that doesn't make it right. That's all I'm saying. Bullying a bully is every bit as wrong as what the bully is doing. That's exactly what you said. Pretty good lesson of, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
May 21, 201313 yr Never heard stories of a bully sitting down with their victim to explain to them what they're doing and why they don't like it. Then, after the victim continues to do the things the bully warned them about, the bully acts on it. Apples and hand grenades. Especially considering a parent is an authority figure and the child STILL did not respect her authority. For the love of God, I didn't say the parent is a bully. :ohbrother:
May 21, 201313 yr That's exactly what you said. Pretty good lesson of, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." So bullying is A-Okay in Crash's book, as long as the victim is another bully?
May 21, 201313 yr For the love of God, I didn't say the parent is a bully. :ohbrother: You know the child's kid bullied another kid about their clothing. You know the mother made the child wear clothes from the thrift store. You can only assume that the mother's child is going to be bullied. Explain to me how "two wrongs don't make a right" doesn't imply the parent bullied her child?
May 21, 201313 yr So bullying is A-Okay in Crash's book, as long as the victim is another bully? Um, what? Show me where I said it was okay? Show me where I said the bully was bullied. The lesson is for the child doing the bullying. If she is bullied she will learn how it feels and won't do it to others. Same thing when you tell your kids over and over not to touch the hot stove. They'll touch it, burn themselves, then learn a tough lesson. No different. Have any kids? Have any kids that have been bullied?
May 21, 201313 yr I think it's a good parenting move, however I have my reservations. Typically bullies are the kids with low self-confidence or self-worth, who bully to make themselves feel better about themselves. Subjecting her to potentially being bullied, while a good lesson, could also have a negative impact on her psyche. :idunno: You know the child's kid bullied another kid about their clothing. You know the mother made the child wear clothes from the thrift store. You can only assume that the mother's child is going to be bullied. Explain to me how "two wrongs don't make a right" doesn't imply the parent bullied her child? I think the bolded from my very first post made it crystal clear I wasn't talking about the parent bullying anyone. Either you overlooked that or chose to ignore it (betting heavily on the latter).
May 21, 201313 yr Um, what? Show me where I said it was okay? Show me where I said the bully was bullied. The lesson is for the child doing the bullying. If she is bullied she will learn how it feels and won't do it to others. Same thing when you tell your kids over and over not to touch the hot stove. They'll touch it, burn themselves, then learn a tough lesson. No different. Have any kids? Have any kids that have been bullied? You're condoning bullying the bully. That's the equivalent of saying bullying the bully is okay.
May 21, 201313 yr I think the bolded from my very first post made it crystal clear I wasn't talking about the parent bullying anyone. Either you overlooked that or chose to ignore it (betting heavily on the latter). Taking a shot. Classy. To date, there were three actions. Bullying kid. A parent talking to the bully. The bully wearing thrift store clothes. You are simply guessing. No more, no less. You weren't too clear because I wasn't the only one that was confused. Go take a shot at them, too.
May 21, 201313 yr UKMF, I'd be curious how you'd have handled it if it was your daughter. She'd be spending every minute of the day not in school, in her room, without cell phones, electronics or any other form of entertainment. Also be done with any extraciricular's she was involved in until further notice. I'd request that the teacher keep me updated on her progress, and if it continued she'd never leave her room or see a single friend. I'd let her know she'd be allowed to resume her "normal" life as soon as she started showing every other student the respect she shows to me, her mother, her teachers, etc. If things started to improve and she stopped the bullying, she'd slowly earn back her things.
May 21, 201313 yr Taking a shot. Classy. To date, there were three actions. Bullying kid. A parent talking to the bully. The bully wearing thrift store clothes. You are simply guessing. No more, no less. You weren't too clear because I wasn't the only one that was confused. Go take a shot at them, too. Where did I take a shot? I said either you overlooked it or you ignored it. Seeing as you normally read all the posts in a thread, my assumption was you chose to ignore it. Don't see a shot there. :idunno:
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