Can someone tell me the official rule on this please?

 

In tonight's Grant County - Simon Kenton game, Grant County had to use a timeout late in overtime for one of their players to go change his shorts apparently because there was a spot of blood on his behind. It ended up being Grant's last timeout...one that I'm sure their coach wished he still had after Simon Kenton hit a 3 to take the lead with just seconds left.

 

So, is the player automatically out, unless you have a timeout? Do the officials have any discretion on how much time to allow? Is it different if it's the players own blood (and may be still bleeding) versus transfer from another player?

 

Is the rule different for basketball, versus football or baseball/softball?

Visible blood has to be removed or the uni changed. The player has to leave the game or the team can call a timeout but the uni change has to occur during the constraints of the timeout. Same for football. They need to have a squeeze bottle of hydrogen peroxide on the bench. It will quickly remove a small blood spot. The officials have no discretion. If they see blood they have to remove the player from the game.

 

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Oh, so Grant County chose to call a timeout to keep the player in the game? They weren't forced to call a timeout. Interesting.

Oh' date=' so Grant County chose to call a timeout to keep the player in the game? They weren't forced to call a timeout. Interesting.[/quote']

 

Exactly...

Oh, so Grant County chose to call a timeout to keep the player in the game? They weren't forced to call a timeout. Interesting.

 

I guess when that player has 37 of your 66 points and is one of your key ball handlers, that's why he choose to keep him in the game. They were to inbound the ball, so would've been on offense. Plus, there was less than 20 seconds left in the game at the time.

I guess when that player has 37 of your 66 points and is one of your key ball handlers, that's why he choose to keep him in the game. They were to inbound the ball, so would've been on offense. Plus, there was less than 20 seconds left in the game at the time.

 

Maybe. But they could have subbed real quick, saved the TO and then subbed him back in when they used a TO in a better spot. Hindsight is 20/20.

Maybe. But they could have subbed real quick, saved the TO and then subbed him back in when they used a TO in a better spot. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

Ain't that the truth. I'm just guessing the coach didn't want to roll the dice. If you sub in with a less experienced player and they turn the ball over, you cost yourself points (potentially at both ends). If you don't, and use the timeout, then it's not there when you potentially may need it.

 

I'm not saying, even with the timeout, that Grant could've still won the game. Waaaaaaayyyyy too many scenarios to even consider. But, it would've been nice to have seen what they would've tried...that's all.

Ain't that the truth. I'm just guessing the coach didn't want to roll the dice. If you sub in with a less experienced player and they turn the ball over, you cost yourself points (potentially at both ends). If you don't, and use the timeout, then it's not there when you potentially may need it.

 

I'm not saying, even with the timeout, that Grant could've still won the game. Waaaaaaayyyyy too many scenarios to even consider. But, it would've been nice to have seen what they would've tried...that's all.

 

I hear you there. Grant County didn't lose that game because of that situation. Small part of it but ultimately the blood timeout isn't why they lost. At least they still have the region tournament ahead.

I hear you there. Grant County didn't lose that game because of that situation. Small part of it but ultimately the blood timeout isn't why they lost. At least they still have the region tournament ahead.

 

True, but there will be certain fans out there that will dwell on it. And maybe even some that will say Steiner should've been T'd up for going out on the floor after the officials when the game was over. (Boy, wouldn't that have taken some stones by the guys in stripes to call?!?)

 

I was just curious about the rule itself, since it's not something that you see all the time. And usually, when it does occur, it's not inside the final 20 seconds of a district championship game in overtime...so the coaches probably manage it a whole lot differently during the regular season.

True, but there will be certain fans out there that will dwell on it. And maybe even some that will say Steiner should've been T'd up for going out on the floor after the officials when the game was over. (Boy, wouldn't that have taken some stones by the guys in stripes to call?!?)

 

I was just curious about the rule itself, since it's not something that you see all the time. And usually, when it does occur, it's not inside the final 20 seconds of a district championship game in overtime...so the coaches probably manage it a whole lot differently during the regular season.

 

I have no clue what I would have done if I was the Grant County coach.Can't even begin to think what my mindset would be in that situation.

 

Agreed on the stripes not calling a T. That would have been something.

I have no clue what I would have done if I was the Grant County coach.Can't even begin to think what my mindset would be in that situation.

 

Agreed on the stripes not calling a T. That would have been something.

 

That, my friend, might be the understatement of the year, right there.

So why was Steiner do ticked at the refs? Still haven't seen that explanation.

Did using the timeout due to the blood stain have any impact on the game? If yes, please explain. If no, then what is all the fuss about?

 

This is a little like someone complaining because the ref out top called a foul in the paint. My first question is ... was it a foul? If yes, then stop complaining because the "wrong ref" called it.

VOR - Hard to say how much impact it had. But, I will say this, had Grant County still had a timeout left, I'd bet some serious cash that Hicks would've used it to stop the clock immediately after Barnes hit the 3 to put Simon Kenton ahead. There was about 4 or 5 seconds left when he hit it. By the time a Grant County player was able to track the loose ball down, step out of bounds and find an open teammate to inbound it to, more than half that time had run off...leaving just a desperation 3/4 court heave. It was disorganized chaos. Having that timeout would've allowed them to draw up a play.

 

Would it have changed the outcome? Not going to sit here and say it would...way too many variables. That being said, there would've been enough time left that Hicks would've loved having it, and on the flip side, Steiner would've hated defending it. So yes, I think it (losing the timeout) did have some impact.

^ With it being their last time out and the scenario you describe, yes, I would say it did have impact.