January 16, 201313 yr It's as embarrassing as people crying about the President (any President) putting their child in a private school while advocating public education. It's as embarrassing as people crying about a President (any President) taking a vacation or being away fromt he WH. The President's life is completely different from every other Schmo. Most people get that and accept it. Some, NRA, try to play to the "Yeah, why is that guy any different than me" crowd. Sad. What is sad is that anyone would think that methods of protection work differently for different people. Is a building more or less safe with armed personnell protecting it? Many on the left seem to think less for the common man, but not for themselves. Also, I have every right to protect my loved ones with the same means that he uses to protect his. However, it seems that he would like to take that right away from me.
January 16, 201313 yr What is sad is that anyone would think that methods of protection work differently for different people. Is a building more or less safe with armed personnell protecting it? Many on the left seem to think less for the common man, but not for themselves. Also, I have every right to protect my loved ones with the same means that he uses to protect his. However, it seems that he would like to take that right away from me. Sooo … you have a Secret Service detail at your disposal? How much does that set you back per week?
January 16, 201313 yr The President's child should always be protected. Hardly news. Has nothing to do with the debate at hand. This ad is flat out embarrassing and hurts legit gun owners. NRA Stand and Fight I actually agree and I'm opposed to any stiffer gun control and in favor of armed personnel in schools. Anyone that can't see the difference in the dangers the presidents kids potentially face versus the average citizens kids need to have their head checked. I'm pretty sure I could ride in a convertible down the streets of Dallas with no issues. As we found out the hard way the President cannot.
January 16, 201313 yr The President's child should always be protected. Hardly news. Has nothing to do with the debate at hand. This ad is flat out embarrassing and hurts legit gun owners. NRA Stand and Fight Totally agree about the difference in situations. I have a question. Are private schools in charge of their own security? Could they hire armed security without breaking any laws, or does the government have to be involved in one way or another? If not, I'm curious if we'll see a shift to more armed security in the more upper-class private schools. I know NKY parochial schools couldn't afford it.
January 16, 201313 yr Sooo … you have a Secret Service detail at your disposal? How much does that set you back per week? No, but I have many of the same weapons they use.
January 16, 201313 yr Author If you are going to be 100% condescending and full of ridicule for those that dare to disagree with you the least you can do it spell correctly. "Lefties" I don't see how this post is any more condescending then many of yours but then again we can't all be masters the pseudo-Socratic method of posting you seem to enjoy. Back to the original point of the thread. The left excoriated the suggestion that armed guards go into schools. Will they embrace it now that their guy proposed it? Sent from my Samsung Stratosphere using Forum Runner
January 16, 201313 yr I actually agree and I'm opposed to any stiffer gun control and in favor of armed personnel in schools. Anyone that can't see the difference in the dangers the presidents kids potentially face versus the average citizens kids need to have their head checked. I'm pretty sure I could ride in a convertible down the streets of Dallas with no issues. As we found out the hard way the President cannot. Certainly there is a difference, but why shouldn't both situations call for armed personell?
January 16, 201313 yr I don't see how this post is any more condescending then many of yours but then again we can't all be masters the pseudo-Socratic method of posting you seem to enjoy. Back to the original point of the thread. The left excoriated the suggestion that armed guards go into schools. Will they embrace it now that their guy proposed it? Sent from my Samsung Stratosphere using Forum Runner A Socratic method of questioning is condescending? Do tell. To your question, my guess is the most vocal of the opposition will still be vocal and opposed. But that can't be a surprise to anyone so I have to ask if your question has a real point?
January 16, 201313 yr Author I disagree. I think the most vocal critics of the NRA on this issue will now be silent because Obama has suggested it. I also know from first hand experience that when it supports their stance the left has no problem with armed guards in schools. In 1975 when busing was instituted in Jefferson County I road a school bus with a state trooper and there were armed national guardsmen in the schools.
January 16, 201313 yr You say "in general" is there a condition where you would be OK with having police officers in schools? Not really. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Forum Runner
January 16, 201313 yr Are you opposed to it at the school Obamas kids attend ? I am not familiar...are these the girls' body guards providing the normal security to the President's children? Or is this a school security. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Forum Runner
January 16, 201313 yr Why? I am opposed to the introduction of an armed presence in the school setting, and pretty much all other settings. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Forum Runner
January 16, 201313 yr I am opposed to the introduction of an armed presence in the school setting, and pretty much all other settings. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Forum Runner There are already armed school resource officers in our public schools. Why are you opposed? What is the concern, and does it supercede the safety of students attending school, and the teachers working in the buildings?
January 16, 201313 yr I disagree. I think the most vocal critics of the NRA on this issue will now be silent because Obama has suggested it. I also know from first hand experience that when it supports their stance the left has no problem with armed guards in schools. In 1975 when busing was instituted in Jefferson County I road a school bus with a state trooper and there were armed national guardsmen in the schools. And the "lefties" are the one's who wanted the state trooper? Also, as you well know, the troopers weren't a permanent fixture and neither were the National Guard at the schools. Comparing the reasons needed to that example isn't the same. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Forum Runner
January 16, 201313 yr There are already armed school resource officers in our public schools. Why are you opposed? What is the concern, and does it supercede the safety of students attending school, and the teachers working in the buildings? Not in all public schools. And I am not convinced having such personnel actually help anything. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Forum Runner
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