I know, if you read my other posts, I did give him credit. But to claim that Eddie is solely responsible shows you aren't that close to the program. In the past 7-8 years, NCC has had an influx of talent, Sam Diehl, Michael Vicars, Jared Harris, Rob Kues, Mark Kelly, Chris Kelly, all kinds of big names. The school hasn't struggled with it really since 2005, also being when Bob was the coach, but in 2007-2008, they ran into a train in Fort Campbell, and still almost came away with it the second time around, despite Rob Kues separating his shoulder. I'm sorry, but the talent level recently has been much higher than previous years. I will give Eddie however that the talent coming in right now being sophmores on down, will mainly be there due to his success. But before that, those were kids that grew up watching and admiring the NCC program, and all came in at a good time, and meshed well together. Yes, Eddie was a good coach as I said, but people are giving him all the credit, which is what my post was about, the players deserve A LOT of credit as well.

Well it sounds like you are saying he stepped into a job with this overwhelming amount of talent. It's no different than most years.

Well it sounds like you are saying he stepped into a job with this overwhelming amount of talent. It's no different than most years.

 

To say a roster that was loaded and actually gave Ryle a game the year they beat Highlands is "no different than most years" is totally not true. A roster with Brady Hightchew, Chris Kelly, Jake Cain, Jake Giesler, Jack Gruenschlager, Brian Doyle (I believe NCC's all-time leader in int's), don't even make me name more. The talent that year that he inherited was ridiculous. That's almost equal to Tubby Smith inheriting Rick Pitino's roster at UK. Again, not saying Eddie doesn't deserve credit, but you implying that the talent was "no different than most years" is just not true.

To say a roster that was loaded and actually gave Ryle a game the year they beat Highlands is "no different than most years" is totally not true. A roster with Brady Hightchew, Chris Kelly, Jake Cain, Jake Giesler, Jack Gruenschlager, Brian Doyle (I believe NCC's all-time leader in int's), don't even make me name more. The talent that year that he inherited was ridiculous. That's almost equal to Tubby Smith inheriting Rick Pitino's roster at UK. Again, not saying Eddie doesn't deserve credit, but you implying that the talent was "no different than most years" is just not true.

 

There have been better talent on teams and they have not won it all. '93 comes to example w/ Simon, Sandfoss and Hagger in the backfield and Wiggins at QB. Eddie took a team and implemented his schemes around the talent, hence the downfield attack this year. I'm not sure NewCath wins w Brady as their QB if Eddie isn't coaching bc they would still have run the spread option read, and Brady couldn't throw well smother for that. Put him under center and throw short quick passes and take chances off of play.action to go w his running, and you have something. You are selling Eddie short.

To say a roster that was loaded and actually gave Ryle a game the year they beat Highlands is "no different than most years" is totally not true. A roster with Brady Hightchew, Chris Kelly, Jake Cain, Jake Giesler, Jack Gruenschlager, Brian Doyle (I believe NCC's all-time leader in int's), don't even make me name more. The talent that year that he inherited was ridiculous. That's almost equal to Tubby Smith inheriting Rick Pitino's roster at UK. Again, not saying Eddie doesn't deserve credit, but you implying that the talent was "no different than most years" is just not true.

 

Additionally that group finished like 7-5 the year before Eddie took over.

Additionally that group finished like 7-5 the year before Eddie took over.

 

I might be underselling Eddie, but I think a lot of people underestimate the 2010 group. A group that wasn't even challenged in the playoffs, and 2 losses came on a controversial play, and an extremely good Ryle team. Also, the 7-5 team that Eddie took over had a new sohpmore QB, who was still learning even being a QB, and were very inexperienced aside from the O-Line. Sorry, but I really find it hard to believe you can compare one of the best NCC state title teams to one that didn't win a title. Just not buying it. Seeing Brady Hightchew from 2009 to 2010 is the reason for the turn around. If you watched the games, as I watched every single one both years, you would see. What I think was the case though, was Eddie's system was the perfect fit for Brady Hightchew. It complimented him perfect due to him not being much of a throwing QB. Again, I don't know how many times I need to say it, hopefully this is the last time, so people stop quoting and taking what I say out of context. Eddie is a good coach, Eddie did coach up a good team, BUT 2010-2012 have had some VERY talented teams. And to claim the 2010 team was not extremely talented is foolish. But enough of this arguing and what not that has been ongoing. I wish Eddie the best, and hope NCC makes a great decision in hiring a HC.

To say a roster that was loaded and actually gave Ryle a game the year they beat Highlands is "no different than most years" is totally not true. A roster with Brady Hightchew, Chris Kelly, Jake Cain, Jake Giesler, Jack Gruenschlager, Brian Doyle (I believe NCC's all-time leader in int's), don't even make me name more. The talent that year that he inherited was ridiculous. That's almost equal to Tubby Smith inheriting Rick Pitino's roster at UK. Again, not saying Eddie doesn't deserve credit, but you implying that the talent was "no different than most years" is just not true.

 

Agree. However, those kids, with the exception of hightchew were juniors. What was their record that 09 season? Not real good if I remember right. With coach evistons offense the next season....13-2 state champs. I think what is being said is, there are always going to be 5-6 really good seniors on these NCC teams.

 

We could go player by player comparisons all day, this 2012 team in many spots is better than that 2010 team that he "inherited".

 

QB-10

SB-12 this can be debated all day, but I'll take Hayes over Kelly.

Wing-10 cane, enough said.

WR-12 franzen and freppen dominated.

OL-12 this was close as well, but player by player gives edge to 12.

 

DL-12 close, but rust and haas crush 10 DTs.

LB-10 tough call here, but Kelly and cane slightly edge Thacker and sutkamp. Overall, 10 better.

DB-10 franzen slightly better tackler than Doyle, but Doyle had the picks

 

ST-12 (special teams) no debate here lol

Edited December 26, 201213 yr by NKYfootballfan91
Wrong years...

That 2009 team had one of the toughest schedules that Newcath has had over the past 10 years!

 

How I judge a coach is - has the team won a game in which ther were not supposed to win? I don't think that in coach Evistion's 3 years they did win a game that they were an underdog, I know they lost a few when they were the favorite. Not a knock on Coach Eviston, I think he did a great job and my boys are better men for having played for him, but I don't think he belongs on a pedestal either.

 

Coach Lyons would be a huge mistake as head coach!!

Agree. However, those kids, with the exception of hightchew were juniors. What was their record that 09 season? Not real good if I remember right. With coach evistons offense the next season....13-2 state champs. I think what is being said is, there are always going to be 5-6 really good seniors on these NCC teams.

 

We could go player by player comparisons all day, this 2012 team in many spots is better than that 2010 team that he "inherited".

 

QB-10

SB-12 this can be debated all day, but I'll take Hayes over Kelly.

Wing-10 cane, enough said.

WR-12 franzen and freppen dominated.

OL-12 this was close as well, but player by player gives edge to 12.

 

DL-12 close, but rust and haas crush 10 DTs.

LB-10 tough call here, but Kelly and cane slightly edge Thacker and sutkamp. Overall, 10 better.

DB-10 franzen slightly better tackler than Doyle, but Doyle had the picks

 

ST-12 (special teams) no debate here lol

 

 

I think 2011 was better than both 2010 and 2012. But, since they didn't win a title, I understand why they aren't being compared to the two championship teams.

Edited December 26, 201213 yr by Voice of Reason

That 2009 team had one of the toughest schedules that Newcath has had over the past 10 years!

 

How I judge a coach is - has the team won a game in which ther were not supposed to win? I don't think that in coach Evistion's 3 years they did win a game that they were an underdog, I know they lost a few when they were the favorite. Not a knock on Coach Eviston, I think he did a great job and my boys are better men for having played for him, but I don't think he belongs on a pedestal either.

 

Coach Lyons would be a huge mistake as head coach!!

No one should put him on a pedestal. But 2 out of 3 years winning the state championship is more than just talent. As far as Coach Lyons is concerned saying it would be a huge mistake is unfair. If you talk X's and O's he's legit but its going to go to an alumni because their is more than one of them that is capable.

That 2009 team had one of the toughest schedules that Newcath has had over the past 10 years!

 

How I judge a coach is - has the team won a game in which ther were not supposed to win? I don't think that in coach Evistion's 3 years they did win a game that they were an underdog, I know they lost a few when they were the favorite. Not a knock on Coach Eviston, I think he did a great job and my boys are better men for having played for him, but I don't think he belongs on a pedestal either.

 

Coach Lyons would be a huge mistake as head coach!!

 

I don't quite understand what you are saying.....there are plenty of games over the last 3 years where they should not have won but won. Anytime a 2A lines up against a school 2 or more divisions ahead, you should not be favored. Now there are some exceptions. Campbell county should beat them, Simon Kenton should beat them, Ryle should beat them. Haters gonna hate. Most people's football knowledge on this site ended in high school. Coaching in the youth football league doesnt make you an expert. You don't know what it takes to work with young men and mold them into a winning team. This team (12) could have been 15-0. You can't predict injuries or other factors. People brought up the 11 team. There are factors you arm chair quarterbacks aren't aware of. Lets be honest, the OL from 11 was horrid. The WRs from 11 were not good. Hightchew got hurt. There was trouble with team unity that the 12 team or 10 never had. Cane and Kelly made sure of that, great leaders.

I think 2011 was better than both 2010 and 2012. But, since they didn't win a title, I understand why they aren't being compared to the two championship teams.

 

I said in another post. Yes, this was the best team in 2A, but there are behind the scene factors and hightchew being hurt didn't help their cause.

I don't quite understand what you are saying.....there are plenty of games over the last 3 years where they should not have won but won. Anytime a 2A lines up against a school 2 or more divisions ahead, you should not be favored. Now there are some exceptions. Campbell county should beat them, Simon Kenton should beat them, Ryle should beat them. Haters gonna hate. Most people's football knowledge on this site ended in high school. Coaching in the youth football league doesnt make you an expert. You don't know what it takes to work with young men and mold them into a winning team. This team (12) could have been 15-0. You can't predict injuries or other factors. People brought up the 11 team. There are factors you arm chair quarterbacks aren't aware of. Lets be honest, the OL from 11 was horrid. The WRs from 11 were not good. Hightchew got hurt. There was trouble with team unity that the 12 team or 10 never had. Cane and Kelly made sure of that, great leaders.

 

WINNER.

 

Plus, losing Brady Thacker to a season ending injury in the 2nd game of the year definitely didn't help. He plays.......we are talkin' 3 in a row.

Any update on a potential hire yet? When do they plan to interview and make a decision, if they haven't already?

Any update on a potential hire yet? When do they plan to interview and make a decision, if they haven't already?

I wonder if they will officially post the job. Usually NCC hires from within or will approach the candidate they want.

I wonder if they will officially post the job. Usually NCC hires from within or will approach the candidate they want.

 

I was wondering the same thing but assume they will not post it. There has been at least three good candidates mentioned on this thread, all of which would be good choices and have NCC ties, Wagner, Brown and Borchers. Any of the three would be a good choice but would think Wagner has the best shot at it since he has been there for a while. Would think NCC would contact each of them.