Reading about the Trinity backup QB getting D1 offers got me thinking about this. Do performances at camps and combines weigh more heavily in the recruiting process then actual game performances????

Not more heavily. But the camps/combines put you "on the radar". This is especially good for a talented kid whose team may not get much headlines. But you need the game videos to back up the performance at any camp or combine.

Not more heavily. But the camps/combines put you "on the radar". This is especially good for a talented kid whose team may not get much headlines. But you need the game videos to back up the performance at any camp or combine.

 

Not necessarily. Zeke Pike is the poster child for this. He was 4 star before he ever took a snap. I truly never saw it.

Agree, camps put kids "on the radar" and sometimes add hype to a player before they even play, and that puts pressure on the player to perform when it matters. Many schools use the camps and combines to map out who they want to recruit, and how hard. If a kid goes to a camp, and has a stellar day, the school will, many times, then begin the recruiting process. Lots of schools decide to offer after seeing the player in game action. After September 1st (i believe) is when colleges can begin to contact players again, so that is after the first couple games are played and most likely when we will be hearing about kids picking up more offers.

In my opinion, the camp performances are weighed more heavily than game performances. Do game performances mean something? Sure. Although I think college recruiters more often attend high school games to 'show the love" to someone they've already decided to offer than to see if the kid can play the game.

There are some kids who have athletic ability, and can have excellent numbers during a camp, or combine, however can't transfer that onto the game field. Just because a kid is fast, doesn't mean he's a great player.. For example: There are a lot of "track kids" who can flat out fly speed wise, but only weigh 150 lbs, and can't take the beating on the field. Sure there are the exceptions to that rule, but it's just an example of how camp numbers can, at times, give a "false reading" as to how good of a football player a kid actually is.

Not necessarily. Zeke Pike is the poster child for this. He was 4 star before he ever took a snap. I truly never saw it.

 

Interesting. Thanks. Did not know that.

Not necessarily. Zeke Pike is the poster child for this. He was 4 star before he ever took a snap. I truly never saw it.

 

So if you are a QB who stands 6' 6" and can throw the ball 50 yds, you automaticly get a 4 star rating?

BTW, even though coaches are not allowed to attend most camps and combines I found it interesting how many assist coaches were 'assistants' at the events. This was true for the NUC combines and the Hoover National 7 on 7.

 

So the colleges do take advantage of these.

So if you are a QB who stands 6' 6" and can throw the ball 50 yds, you automaticly get a 4 star rating?

 

 

Go to camps and competitions and perform and you will get that rating. Pike not only hit the camps, he also traveled around the country to a lot of passing competitions and did well. I can't recall if there are 7 on 7 competition camps or how they do it but Pike played in a lot of them and did well before he ever started at QB in high school. Couple that with the size and/or athleticism and you get offers. Pike did make the Elite 11 and you have to play well in a number of camps to get there. People don't just hand it to you because you are big.

 

Further evidence for me of the importance of camps is Drew Barker. Honestly, he has done very little yet passing the ball in high school that impresses me. Yet he is in the top 100 juniors. He has size. He definitely has athleticism. I am very impressed with him running the ball. I haven't seen it yet passing the ball. In my limited viewing of both, Pike made more impressive throws at QB in high school than I have seen to date from Barker. But I know the passing talent is there in Barker because he is doing something in these camps that impresses the people who know. I think he will take some big steps forward passing the ball this year in high school action.

BTW, even though coaches are not allowed to attend most camps and combines I found it interesting how many assist coaches were 'assistants' at the events. This was true for the NUC combines and the Hoover National 7 on 7.

 

So the colleges do take advantage of these.

 

Not many college programs will offer a scholarship without seeing a kid in person. Thus, assistants showing up at combines. I believe a younger player(frosh, soph) needs to get concrete test results at a combine(independant from the coach's numbers). When they reach their Junior year they need to attend camps that are offered by the Universities that they are interested in attending. The recruiting process really heats up during their Junior year. Of course highlight films will also be reviewed.

The more camps a kid goes to the better the chances are of him getting recruited.

Reading about the Trinity backup QB getting D1 offers got me thinking about this. Do performances at camps and combines weigh more heavily in the recruiting process then actual game performances????

 

Much more heavily weighed.

 

Colleges know that stats and highlight films can be skewed by level of competition you play against. They constantly tell me they need to see the kid PERFORM in person, not just 'see' him on a visit. That means they want him in their camps, combines, etc.

Go to camps and competitions and perform and you will get that rating. Pike not only hit the camps, he also traveled around the country to a lot of passing competitions and did well. I can't recall if there are 7 on 7 competition camps or how they do it but Pike played in a lot of them and did well before he ever started at QB in high school. Couple that with the size and/or athleticism and you get offers. Pike did make the Elite 11 and you have to play well in a number of camps to get there. People don't just hand it to you because you are big.

 

Further evidence for me of the importance of camps is Drew Barker. Honestly, he has done very little yet passing the ball in high school that impresses me. Yet he is in the top 100 juniors. He has size. He definitely has athleticism. I am very impressed with him running the ball. I haven't seen it yet passing the ball. In my limited viewing of both, Pike made more impressive throws at QB in high school than I have seen to date from Barker. But I know the passing talent is there in Barker because he is doing something in these camps that impresses the people who know. I think he will take some big steps forward passing the ball this year in high school action.

 

Pike's problem wasn't his arm. It was his decision making. He forced too many throws and missed a ton of receivers. I saw him play in 5 games, so my opinion is only limited to those. I just didn't think that he read the game well when the rush was on. Then again, Trent Dilfer had a man crush on him, so I am/was probably way off.

Voice Of Reason- Barker threw for over 1000 yards last year, could have been more, he sat out two games due to injury. What does he have to do to impress you throwing the ball?