April 26, 201214 yr Hum, sure looked like a strike to me http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/angel-pagan-hits-strike-four-for-a-three-run-game-winning-homer/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
April 26, 201214 yr Hum, sure looked like a strike to me According to the box score the home plate umpire was Tim Welke.
April 26, 201214 yr Joel Luckhaupt @jluckhaupt Votto has 22 K and 18 BB in first 86 PA this year. In 2010 MVP campaign, he had 22 K and 13 BB in first 86 PA. #Reds
April 26, 201214 yr Joel Luckhaupt @jluckhaupt Votto has 22 K and 18 BB in first 86 PA this year. In 2010 MVP campaign, he had 22 K and 13 BB in first 86 PA. #Reds Looks like he's right on schedule. Also, didn't I hear last year or a year or two ago Votto is generally a slow starter at beginning of a season?
April 26, 201214 yr ^ Not really. 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center]OPS[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]TB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]GDP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]HBP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SH[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SF[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]ROE[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]BAbip[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]tOPS+[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]April/March[/TD] [TD=align: right]115[/TD] [TD=align: right]109[/TD] [TD=align: right]473[/TD] [TD=align: right]394[/TD] [TD=align: right]69[/TD] [TD=align: right]126[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]71[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]72[/TD] [TD=align: right]89[/TD] [TD=align: right].320[/TD] [TD=align: right].427[/TD] [TD=align: right].541[/TD] [TD=align: right].968[/TD] [TD=align: right]213[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: 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right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right].353[/TD] [TD=align: right]102[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]Sept/Oct[/TD] [TD=align: right]132[/TD] [TD=align: right]127[/TD] [TD=align: right]557[/TD] [TD=align: right]479[/TD] [TD=align: right]80[/TD] [TD=align: right]149[/TD] [TD=align: right]50[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]88[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]70[/TD] [TD=align: right]106[/TD] [TD=align: right].311[/TD] [TD=align: right].399[/TD] [TD=align: right].591[/TD] [TD=align: right].989[/TD] [TD=align: right]283[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right].349[/TD] [TD=align: right]106[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
April 26, 201214 yr Marshall on the non-strike 3 call: "It was close. The next pitch was one that mattered. It hung in the middle of the plate." But I guess GT knows better than Marshall that it wasn't a hanger. :idunno:
April 26, 201214 yr ^ Not really. 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center]OPS[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]TB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]GDP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]HBP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SH[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SF[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]ROE[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]BAbip[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]tOPS+[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]April/March[/TD] [TD=align: right]115[/TD] [TD=align: right]109[/TD] [TD=align: right]473[/TD] [TD=align: right]394[/TD] [TD=align: right]69[/TD] [TD=align: right]126[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]71[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]72[/TD] [TD=align: right]89[/TD] [TD=align: right].320[/TD] [TD=align: right].427[/TD] [TD=align: right].541[/TD] [TD=align: right].968[/TD] [TD=align: right]213[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: 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right]43[/TD] [TD=align: right]78[/TD] [TD=align: right].318[/TD] [TD=align: right].384[/TD] [TD=align: right].555[/TD] [TD=align: right].938[/TD] [TD=align: right]213[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right].346[/TD] [TD=align: right]96[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]August[/TD] [TD=align: right]104[/TD] [TD=align: right]99[/TD] [TD=align: right]436[/TD] [TD=align: right]370[/TD] [TD=align: right]62[/TD] [TD=align: right]116[/TD] [TD=align: right]25[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]77[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]63[/TD] [TD=align: right]78[/TD] [TD=align: right].314[/TD] [TD=align: right].417[/TD] [TD=align: right].543[/TD] [TD=align: right].961[/TD] [TD=align: right]201[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right].353[/TD] [TD=align: right]102[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]Sept/Oct[/TD] [TD=align: right]132[/TD] [TD=align: right]127[/TD] [TD=align: right]557[/TD] [TD=align: right]479[/TD] [TD=align: right]80[/TD] [TD=align: right]149[/TD] [TD=align: right]50[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]88[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]70[/TD] [TD=align: right]106[/TD] [TD=align: right].311[/TD] [TD=align: right].399[/TD] [TD=align: right].591[/TD] [TD=align: right].989[/TD] [TD=align: right]283[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right].349[/TD] [TD=align: right]106[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Thanks for the stats Hammer, but you'd have to break it down for me like Luckhaupt. Math and me don't go together very well.
April 26, 201214 yr Marshall on the non-strike 3 call: "It was close. The next pitch was one that mattered. It hung in the middle of the plate." But I guess GT knows better than Marshall that it wasn't a hanger. :idunno: Didn't look like a terrible pitch that was because he sulked over the previous call. I'm sure you had a much better view while not even watching the game... :lol:
April 26, 201214 yr Didn't look like a terrible pitch that was because he sulked over the previous call. I'm sure you had a much better view while not even watching the game... :lol: I saw the play before I made my post...Nice try though. If Marshall says he hung it, he hung it. When you're playing and a call doesn't go your way and the very next pitch is a hanger, logic says it was probably in your head a bit.
April 26, 201214 yr I saw the play before I made my post...Nice try though. If Marshall says he hung it, he hung it. When you're playing and a call doesn't go your way and the very next pitch is a hanger, logic says it was probably in your head a bit. Pitchers hang pitches all the time regardless if they feel they were squeezed on the previous pitch. What does logic say about those pitches?
April 26, 201214 yr I saw the play before I made my post...Nice try though. If Marshall says he hung it, he hung it. When you're playing and a call doesn't go your way and the very next pitch is a hanger, logic says it was probably in your head a bit. So Marshall was upset about getting squeezed on a pitch me missed by 2 feet? :lol: That's right. The missed strike 3 was 2 feet off target...
April 26, 201214 yr It was clearly strike 3. Bomb on the next pitch... Ok. I'm confused. I didn't see the game, but earlier in the thread you stated the pitch was clearly a strike, but now you're saying it missed by two feet? What am I missing. :confused: So Marshall was upset about getting squeezed on a pitch me missed by 2 feet? :lol: That's right. The missed strike 3 was 2 feet off target...
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