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Breaking News: Reds offer Phillips 4 year deal

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Where did I say he wouldn't be getting a raise?

 

It wouldn't be financially smart for the Reds to offer him a raise but they probably are. I wouldn't give him anything close to 12 million.

 

Is this coming from a guy that understands the econonmics of the deal or a guy that clearly isn't a big BP fan?

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Is this coming from a guy that understands the econonmics of the deal or a guy that clearly isn't a big BP fan?

 

Who cares?

Jim Bowden is reporting they offered a 5 year deal for $60M but BP wants a 6th year.

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Jim Bowden is reporting they offered a 5 year deal for $60M but BP wants a 6th year.

 

 

OK. 6 years for 60 million. lol.gif

5/$62.5 is a fair deal for the Reds. Only a half million more than the Braves gave Uggla and it's a year later. Plus Phillips is younger and plays the field MUCH better.

Glad that he got the deal; I didn't want to see Phillips leave.

Is this coming from a guy that understands the econonmics of the deal or a guy that clearly isn't a big BP fan?

 

It's coming from a guy that realized they have to pay Joey Votto 250 million over the next 12 years...

It's coming from a guy that realized they have to pay Joey Votto 250 million over the next 12 years...

 

Just wondered as you seem to be a pretty heady baseball guy but for some reason have a real problem with the Reds keeping Phillips around long term. What is it that turns you off on BP? Imo if this team goes anywhere he will be the catalyst from the top of the order that will drive this team to bigger heights. Without him they do not have another leadoff hitter that gives the Reds what he has to offer. You can't dislike his defensive abilities and the fact that he plays everyday healthy or not.

Just wondered as you seem to be a pretty heady baseball guy but for some reason have a real problem with the Reds keeping Phillips around long term. What is it that turns you off on BP? Imo if this team goes anywhere he will be the catalyst from the top of the order that will drive this team to bigger heights. Without him they do not have another leadoff hitter that gives the Reds what he has to offer. You can't dislike his defensive abilities and the fact that he plays everyday healthy or not.

 

I just don't think his productions is worth 12-15 million dollars per year. There have been times where he's been lazy and that's really cost the Reds in the past and he seems like a 'me' first guy rather than a team first guy. Those are all just my opinion.

Just wondered as you seem to be a pretty heady baseball guy but for some reason have a real problem with the Reds keeping Phillips around long term. What is it that turns you off on BP? Imo if this team goes anywhere he will be the catalyst from the top of the order that will drive this team to bigger heights. Without him they do not have another leadoff hitter that gives the Reds what he has to offer. You can't dislike his defensive abilities and the fact that he plays everyday healthy or not.

 

I like BP but he's not worth 12% of the Reds' payroll, especially at age 34+. If the Reds are going to sign him, I'd consider a 3 year, $45 million deal over a 5 year, $62.5.

I hope they get it done. He gives them a spark and attitude that you don't see out of Votto, Bruce or Stubbs due to their more laid back demeanors.

I hope they get it done. He gives them a spark and attitude that you don't see out of Votto, Bruce or Stubbs due to their more laid back demeanors.

 

I'm pretty sure Bruce gave them much more of a spark this weekend than BP did...

This can't be good for negotiations...

 

Jon Heyman ‏ @JonHeymanCBS

 

 

Kinsler $75M, 5-yr extension agreement, 1st reported by the dallas and ft worth papers, removes $10M team option for '13

This can't be good for negotiations...

 

Jon Heyman ‏ @JonHeymanCBS

 

 

Kinsler $75M, 5-yr extension agreement, 1st reported by the dallas and ft worth papers, removes $10M team option for '13

Even with his injuries Kinsler has averaged a 4.6 WAR the last five years. He only needs to average 3 WAR for the Rangers to make good on this contract. I think he has at least three season of 5+ WAR production. All-in- all a good contract for the Rangers as he should remain productive at a high level through most, if not all of the duration of the contract.

@JimBowdenESPNxm: "The Cincinnati Reds are prepared to guarantee a 6-year 72.5M to Brandon Phillips and I am predicting the deal will get done in the next 24 hours."

 

Utter shock....Does anyone actually think this is a good thing if true?

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