When will these two Buffoons go away, they do more harm than good.

 

As soon as guys like Robertson do for white folks. Never. As long as they can profit from conflict, in conflict you will find them. I just despise that they always show up after the fact. How active are they in the day-to-day fight to help minority entreprenuers and the like? Do they help out w/ school districts that need assistance? They may, I don't know, but I haven't see the good reverends on TV asking for funds to help useful causes. I only see them stirring the pot.

 

As for this, this is about race, b/c the only reason that the kid was followed was b/c he was black. Zimmerman called him a coon, so he obviously harbors some sort of ill-will towards blacks. Then it is is about justice, b/c the police force botched yet another investigation. Then it is about both. How much credence was Zimmerman's story given b/c he was claiming self-defense against a black teen? How much of an uproar was created b/c the police botched an investigation in the death of a black teen, another sensitive subject? It's impossible to divide the two b/c the motive of the original confrontation that gave rise to the question of justice was based solely on race.

Doesn't Al Sharpton host a show on MSNBC now?

When will these two Buffoons go away, they do more harm than good.

 

Add Spike Lee to the mix. This is gonna cost him.

 

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Wow.....not really much different than what Zimmerman is accused of, aside from someone being killed. Spike might have to open his pocketbook for his ignorance.

Seems to me that if Trayvon hadn’t attacked Zimmerman he wouldn’t have been shot. It also seems the media initially reported Zimmerman as white, showed pictures of a younger Trayvon, and didn’t initially mention that Zimmerman was attacked. All of which misrepresented the truth and helped form public opinion in the case.

Seems to me that if Trayvon hadn’t attacked Zimmerman he wouldn’t have been shot. It also seems the media initially reported Zimmerman as white, showed pictures of a younger Trayvon, and didn’t initially mention that Zimmerman was attacked. All of which misrepresented the truth and helped form public opinion in the case.

 

Nobody knows whether it was an attack or not. That's the main issue. What I need to know is, what was the scope of Zimmerman's authority? Did he have the right to basically harass someone on the street b/c he thought that the person was suspicious? If someone tailed me in a car and then got out, I wouldn't exactly be excited about his approaching me. I'd probably confront the person and, if it escalated, make the first attack, since I have no idea what the person is all about.

Wow.....not really much different than what Zimmerman is accused of, aside from someone being killed. Spike might have to open his pocketbook for his ignorance.

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Another action by a nincompoop that will result in nothing...

Nobody knows whether it was an attack or not. That's the main issue. What I need to know is, what was the scope of Zimmerman's authority? Did he have the right to basically harass someone on the street b/c he thought that the person was suspicious? If someone tailed me in a car and then got out, I wouldn't exactly be excited about his approaching me. I'd probably confront the person and, if it escalated, make the first attack, since I have no idea what the person is all about.

 

Obviously, none of us know the true facts of the case. However, based on what’s been reported, Zimmerman was part of the Neighborhood watch program and there had been several burglaries in the area with witness descriptions of young black males involved. Zimmerman sees a young black make who he doesn’t recognize in the community. He follows Trayvon, Trayvon attacks Zimmerman, and Zimmerman shoots Trayvon. Was Zimmerman profiling? Probably. Was he profiling based on racial bias or based on the witness descriptions of the burglary suspects? I don’t know, but the media has certainly made it out to be a hate crime, when many of the reported facts don’t point toward it IMO.

Obviously, none of us know the true facts of the case. However, based on what’s been reported, Zimmerman was part of the Neighborhood watch program and there had been several burglaries in the area with witness descriptions of young black males involved. Zimmerman sees a young black make who he doesn’t recognize in the community. He follows Trayvon, Trayvon attacks Zimmerman, and Zimmerman shoots Trayvon. Was Zimmerman profiling? Probably. Was he profiling based on racial bias or based on the witness descriptions of the burglary suspects? I don’t know, but the media has certainly made it out to be a hate crime, when many of the reported facts don’t point toward it IMO.

 

Right, but what was the scope of Zimmerman's authority? Did he have a right to tail the kid and stop him? What exactly is a neighborhood watch guy allowed to do? If a policeman were to stop you on the street, he would have to have probable cause that criminal activity was afoot. He would only be able to stop you, pat down your outer clothing, and that would be in. If he did that, he would have to show that his experience as a police officer had led him to a reasonable suspicion. Did Zimmerman have that authority? He certainly didn't have that experience. Unless neighborhood watch members have the authority to act under the color of law, this guy overstepped his bounds. Further, he never told the kid who he was, or why he was following him. Rather, he tailed a kid through a neighborhood, got out of the car in the dark, and approached a complete stranger. What would you have done?

Obviously, none of us know the true facts of the case. However, based on what’s been reported, Zimmerman was part of the Neighborhood watch program and there had been several burglaries in the area with witness descriptions of young black males involved. Zimmerman sees a young black make who he doesn’t recognize in the community. He follows Trayvon, Trayvon attacks Zimmerman, and Zimmerman shoots Trayvon. Was Zimmerman profiling? Probably. Was he profiling based on racial bias or based on the witness descriptions of the burglary suspects? I don’t know, but the media has certainly made it out to be a hate crime, when many of the reported facts don’t point toward it IMO.

 

Again, as mexitucky points out, we do NOT know that Martin attacked Zimmerman or if so, in what manner. Was he "standing his ground"? Or can you only "stand your ground" if you have a gun?

 

All we have is the testimony of a man who put a bullet hole in the chest of an unarmed teenager, who was told by dispatchers NOT to follow the kid, who used a racial epitaph while on the phone with the dispatcher, who got out of his truck, who SAYS that the teenager attacked him.

 

Unfortunately, the teenager can't tell his side of the story from the grave.

Right, but what was the scope of Zimmerman's authority? Did he have a right to tail the kid and stop him? What exactly is a neighborhood watch guy allowed to do? If a policeman were to stop you on the street, he would have to have probable cause that criminal activity was afoot. He would only be able to stop you, pat down your outer clothing, and that would be in. If he did that, he would have to show that his experience as a police officer had led him to a reasonable suspicion. Did Zimmerman have that authority? He certainly didn't have that experience. Unless neighborhood watch members have the authority to act under the color of law, this guy overstepped his bounds. Further, he never told the kid who he was, or why he was following him. Rather, he tailed a kid through a neighborhood, got out of the car in the dark, and approached a complete stranger. What would you have done?

 

If I saw someone suspicious in my neighborhood, there is no law that I’m aware of that would prevent me from following them or even asking them a question, regardless of whether I’m involved in a community organization or not. Does someone have to have authority to follow someone else down the street? Does following someone justify being assaulted and having your head slammed against the ground? We don’t know what exactly occurred between Zimmerman and Trayvon, what was said exactly, or what motivation Trayvon had for striking Zimmerman and we may never know. However, simply following Trayvon doesn’t automatically mean Zimmerman was a racist. Many of the facts reported in this case would indicate that Zimmerman was following him because of the recent burglaries in the area and because Zimmerman seems to be a very active, probably overzealous, member of the neighborhood watch group.

 

Assuming Zimmerman overstepped his bounds by getting out of his vehicle and following Trayvon, that still doesn’t justify Trayvon attacking him. Unless Zimmerman physically grabbed, shoved, hit, or restrained Trayvon, what justification did Trayvon have for hitting and slamming his head against the ground? At that point if Zimmerman had a reasonable fear for his life, then deadly force is justified. Was Zimmermans actions that put him in the situation completely justified, maybe not, but Trayvon’s actions weren’t either based on the facts I’ve read.

If I saw someone suspicious in my neighborhood, there is no law that I’m aware of that would prevent me from following them or even asking them a question, regardless of whether I’m involved in a community organization or not. Does someone have to have authority to follow someone else down the street? Does following someone justify being assaulted and having your head slammed against the ground? We don’t know what exactly occurred between Zimmerman and Trayvon, what was said exactly, or what motivation Trayvon had for striking Zimmerman and we may never know. However, simply following Trayvon doesn’t automatically mean Zimmerman was a racist. Many of the facts reported in this case would indicate that Zimmerman was following him because of the recent burglaries in the area and because Zimmerman seems to be a very active, probably overzealous, member of the neighborhood watch group.

 

Assuming Zimmerman overstepped his bounds by getting out of his vehicle and following Trayvon, that still doesn’t justify Trayvon attacking him. Unless Zimmerman physically grabbed, shoved, hit, or restrained Trayvon, what justification did Trayvon have for hitting and slamming his head against the ground? At that point if Zimmerman had a reasonable fear for his life, then deadly force is justified. Was Zimmermans actions that put him in the situation completely justified, maybe not, but Trayvon’s actions weren’t either based on the facts I’ve read.

 

Why do you keep repeating that Martin attacked Zimmerman? This is not a fact.

 

You also mention that if Zimmerman was in fear of his life that he had a right to use deadly force. You seem to ignore that fact that Martin may have felt that he was in fear of his life. If so, can he not defend himself?

 

I don't know which scenario is true. I do know that Zimmerman is the one that initiated the whole sequence of events that lead to the death of kid armed with Skittles and tea.

Again, as mexitucky points out, we do NOT know that Martin attacked Zimmerman or if so, in what manner. Was he "standing his ground"? Or can you only "stand your ground" if you have a gun?

 

All we have is the testimony of a man who put a bullet hole in the chest of an unarmed teenager, who was told by dispatchers NOT to follow the kid, who used a racial epitaph while on the phone with the dispatcher, who got out of his truck, who SAYS that the teenager attacked him.

 

Unfortunately, the teenager can't tell his side of the story from the grave.

 

Many experts have said the word he used was “punk”, others say it was the racial epitaph you refer to. Either way, what was said on the recording is far from conclusive.

If I saw someone suspicious in my neighborhood, there is no law that I’m aware of that would prevent me from following them or even asking them a question, regardless of whether I’m involved in a community organization or not. Does someone have to have authority to follow someone else down the street? Does following someone justify being assaulted and having your head slammed against the ground? We don’t know what exactly occurred between Zimmerman and Trayvon, what was said exactly, or what motivation Trayvon had for striking Zimmerman and we may never know. However, simply following Trayvon doesn’t automatically mean Zimmerman was a racist. Many of the facts reported in this case would indicate that Zimmerman was following him because of the recent burglaries in the area and because Zimmerman seems to be a very active, probably overzealous, member of the neighborhood watch group.

 

Assuming Zimmerman overstepped his bounds by getting out of his vehicle and following Trayvon, that still doesn’t justify Trayvon attacking him. Unless Zimmerman physically grabbed, shoved, hit, or restrained Trayvon, what justification did Trayvon have for hitting and slamming his head against the ground? At that point if Zimmerman had a reasonable fear for his life, then deadly force is justified. Was Zimmermans actions that put him in the situation completely justified, maybe not, but Trayvon’s actions weren’t either based on the facts I’ve read.

 

We have no facts. We have witness accounts, that start only w/ the scream. This is a he said/she said. There is no rule perhaps about following someone. However, if you follow someone, you put that person on alert that they may need to protect themselves. I don't know who did what, but when a guy calls 911 and is directed NOT to exit his vehicle, then disregards that after mentioning the term "Coon," those facts tend to make me believe that he was looking to confront Martin. As I asked previously, what would you have done?

 

You are giving Zimmerman's role as a neighborhood watch guy way too much respect and credence. By the way, how do you know who attacked who?