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7 Middlesboro 5 North Laurel 3 Lee County 2 East Ridge 1 Barbourville Tiebreaker Middlesboro

7 Hazard 5 Pineville 3 Madison Southern 2 Jackson Co. 1 Ashland Blazer Tiebreaker Pineville

7 Tates Creek 5 Highlands 3 Danville 2 Montgomery County 1 Nicholas County TB - Tates Creek

7 June Buchanan 5 Pikeville 3 Corbin 2 Pike County Central 1 Breathitt County Tie Breaker June Buchanan

where's the game played at? if at the Yellow Jackets I'll say Jackets by 10... if at Barbourville I'll go with HDE and say Barbourville by 4 or 5....

7 Ashland Blazer 5 Estill Co. 3 Johnson Central 2 South Floyd 1 North Laurel T/B Estill Co.

I think you will see just how much they miss their floor general:banana: Barbourville by 6:dancingpa

*Jackson County - Not highly rated but I'll bet every coach dreads playing them. *Clay County - Very well coached and makes every game a "tussle" * B'Ville - Another well coached team that has some sized and a good shooter. * Middlesboro - A very athletic team this year that will cause even the best teams to struggle. * Cawood - Very good shooter and very good inside player that can cause opposing teams problems *Red Bird - One of the states all time great coaches that is lacking in talent but overflowing with heart... All other teams in the 13th are either so low that they can't possibly be overlooked or their ranked in the top 5 or 6...

I really don't see placing Bell that high, especially this early in the year. They have lost so much from last year and really only have one proven player returning. I understand they are well coached but you still need a few horses to race with.. here's my 13th ranking, based on returning/lost talent and keep in mind that the few teams at the top are so close it's unreal.... 1. Corbin 2. Cumberland 3. Jackson County 4. Pineville 5. South Laurel 6. B'Ville 7. Middlesboro 8. Cawood 9. Knox 10. Clay Co. 11. North Laurel 12. Bell Co 13. Whitley 14. Red Bird 15. Lynn Camp 16. OBI 17. Williamsburg 18. Evarts 19. Harlan

I think when you look at the "coaching" aspect you have to put John D. and Phipps up there with the best. They consistantly put teams on the floor that are competitive with a much smaller talent pool to pull from. That is what I look for when someone asks me to identify a good or great coach. Also, you have to give credit where it's due because the South Laurel program has certainly been on top for some time in the 13th. after that I'd tend to go with Strange, Petroski, and Nolan. There are so many worthy coaches in the 13th especially at Clay and Bell but the fact remains that several of the teams "become" a better team due to transfers or kids moving around while the ones mentioned above seem to be competitive year in and year out. With the talent they have brought up over the years.

Im not 100 percent positive on all players but i know Cawood will contribute Josh Caldwell, and Cumberland will have two guards who will recieve alot of playing time this yr Zach Blanton and Paul David Creech. There are others from these two teams that i am leaving out that have lots of talent but cannot place there names.Harlan County High school will contend for the region if the players can come together.

You would take Miller over Crawford?

HDE, While I like your first two teams, I somehow think that Rhymer should be included a bit higher than 3rd team.... I mean if anything change him and Huff positions... I also think that by placing Osborne and Henson on the 3rd team was to "over rated". I saw these two play and henson could be in the top 100 or even 50 to play there but certainly neither should be in the top 15 all time at Cawood. I think we are forgetting a few "honorable" mentions like the ones that surrounded Hearld on that talented team and possibly a few that played some years ago.... but I did enjoy your list....

Whatever happened to Sanford?

Could Cox have ended up in the NBA? if you watched them all three play then i will agree with you i only had pleasure to watch Hubbs in person and watch a few game films of the other 2, but for them to be this much better than Hubbs they must have been un-believable because Hubbs was a monster of the offensive side of the ball.

:ylsuper: :dancingpa :thumb: The first 2 seasons wasnt very good anyways, and Scott Countys descision was very smart IMO

Hey Old School Dr. they dont keep fouls in summer league games :lol:, im not saying Wilson is'nt a good player what im saying is i would choose Miller and Caldwell before him right now, and if i remember Caldwell had pheumonia and still played Cumberland.

Ok again Garfield Wilson can be a good player but you think he is already above Cody Miller?, you have almsot Cumberland starting five in the rankings. But from what i watched over the summer Wilson will be good after he settles down but right now i would take Miller, and Caldwell should be ahead. I watched Cawood and Cumberland play earlier in the summer. It seemed as if Caldwell wasnt 100% but he still held his own and gave Cumberland trouble. Im not sure if Cumberland played Knox Central though but the Miller kid is a match up nightmare hes a good 6'5 strong, has a good first step, and can shoot. Im sorry i just dont see how Wilson can be put above those 2, not yet anyways.

Elliot Co. competed at the latest Blue-Chip camp as a team and did very well playing against some of the best players from the south and around the United States. From what ive watched of Elliot they are a 100% team they never stop and never give up, yea they argue some calls but what team dont? the thing is they are arguing because they expect to win and want to win and thats a quality that alot of teams have lost. I love the way that Elliot plays i wish i could get my team to play like them:ylsuper:

You would take Garfiled Wilson over a Josh Caldwell or a Nick Brumback? :confused:, i watched him play he plays hard and has room to improve but hes a semior and hasnt played before this yr.

Regional finals will be pushin it, but they have a chance to make some noise they have potential. They have two players that have potential to take over games in Rhymer and Caldwell, and good young players. They have a shot, but then again alot of teams in the 13th have a shot :thumb: :jump:

im not taking anything away from Phil Cox or Nick Sanford they were great, and your right i never watched them in person but i have watched films. Blake was not the greatest Phil Cox was the greatest but i believe that Blake should at least be mentioned, he was un-stopable on the offensive end, or at least he was untill he met Aaron Cash in the region his senior yr :thumb: :jump:

So Blake Hubbs is not even mentioned? Even though he did not end up at a college he does hold the scoring title at cawood.

Who do u think the top players in the 13th should be this yr.

Cawood played Cumberland to 4 or 5 i believe at the LMU team camp, Cawood also beat Middlesboro twice this summer, they r the sleeper for sure IMO:thumb: