WVFrank

Facts can be selectively used........and often are on message boards, generally by those with an axe to grind.

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Probably right. Maybe the "heat" will be off Moss when next year's transfer shows up at Boone!

Sorry but blogs are often good for BAD rumors. This is one, trust me. Probably comes from the fact that Moss is again, for the third year, playing AAU ball for the Cincinnati Heat which is based at Lakota West. Moss is very happy at Boone County. By the way, you got a link to the blog? I'd like to see it.

Bad, BAD rumor. Just where does this "stuff" come from?!?! :ohbrother::idunno:

The Highlands stats are not complete, looks to me like not including the last 3 games. Also, Katie Allen is in the list of 3-Point FG Leaders. paNDA just missed highlighting her name.........easy to do with that list!

Final numbers for two of the NKY girls (from KHSAA team sites): Lauren Tibbs 774 points (25.8 PPG), 58.5% FG%, 73.0% FT%, 333 Rebounds (11.1 RPG) Sydney Moss 723 points (22.8 PPG), 59.1% FG%, 73.8% FT%, 346 Rebounds (10.8 RPG)

Heather Sandlin of Boone County won the KABC Patty Jo Hedges Ultimate Teammate Award for the player "whose individual play exemplifies the style of play where scoring isn't the most important aspect of the game, and is complemented by passing, rebounding, and block shots". Congratulations Heather on a well deserved award and a great career!!! :clap::clap::clap: See the link for the award and others from the Sweet Sixteen: http://www.khsaa.org/basketball/girls/sweet16/2010/alltournamentteamandawards.pdf

I am very proud of her! And most proud of what I hear from so many, like you, who see her as a good person. That's the most important of all. Thank you!

Thanks, yes we're very proud of her. She really came on the further the season went. LOL! Yeah my oldest daughter is quite a person. Not sure where she got her aggressiveness, but she has a way of getting things done. She started down to take pictures and was told she couldn't do that without a pass. She went into her "I've come all the way from Florida..........." routine and next thing I know she has a pass and is snapping pictures. Probably got in your way a few times! Again, thanks for all the great pictures you took over the season.

I think she will. I don't believe her college choice is much on her mind right now. And that is a good thing, IMHO. Plenty of time.

And an offer came from Coach Walz a couple days later.

The church league girls team I coached years ago wore the NC blue. After that I didn't care much for it. But I like it now!

Your observation about Moss not being on the Ryle team at the beginning or the end of last season is certainly correct. But the word "quit" is perhaps the wrong one to use. And it was a shame to see that talent wasted last season. The Boone/Moss/Ryle thing does keep coming up but best I can tell it isn't from the Boone side. I only respond when I feel I need to.....and admit sometimes I give in to a bit of "baiting" and shouldn't. I'll try to do better! And I agree this whole thing ought to be put on the back burner and let the girls play. They probably will handle it better than the adults anyway.

That had nothing to do with the transfer. If that had been the motivation staying at Ryle would have provided the better chance to go to States, this season and the next couple.

School (state rank) Litrating 1) Marion County (1) 108.2 - Plays No. 4 Mercy 2) Bowling Green (3) 105.5 - Plays No. 6 Boone County 3) Rockcastle County (4) 99.5 - Plays No. 10 Murray 4) Mercy (6) 98.9 - Plays No. 1 Marion County 5) Henderson County (8) 98.5 - Plays No. 11 Butler 6) Boone County (10) 97.4 - Plays No. 2 Bowling Green 7) Scott County (13) 95.4 - Plays No. 16 Belfry 8) Clay County (20) 90.3 - Plays No. 15 Anderson County 9) Breathitt County 89.0 - Plays No. 13 Rowan County 10) Murray 88.6 - Plays No. No. 3 Rockcastle County 11) Butler 87.2 - Plays No. 5 Henderson County 12) Ohio County 85.1 - Plays No. 14 Clark County 13) Rowan County 84.2 - Plays No. 9 Breathitt County 14) Clark County 83.8 - Plays No. 12 Ohio County 15) Anderson County 83.6 - Plays No. 8 Clay County 16) Belfry 66.2 - Plays No. 7 Scott County

Ryle was 8-1 when they moved up. 8-1 against a rather weak schedule if you look at it, with a 30 point loss to a Glen Este team that was 11-10 for the year. No doubt the transformation was under way. A new coach always brings a new enthusiasm and hope to any program, but the overall season was accomplished with better talent, albeit young, than Ryle was used to having. My point in answering that particular comment was more to get to the influx of non-school district talent into the Ryle program as being a huge key in their distinct improvement. And that only in light of the constant criticism of Coach Fookes for using transfers. I think several other answers here have properly addressed that. Doubt there is any coach out there who wouldn't take a transfer into their program if that happened. And, as I've said before, good programs will attract good players. In particular I am absolutely not trying to minimize or demean the job Coach Oliverio is doing. Again, one has but to look at the results compared to previous seasons to know she deserves a ton of the credit for the improvement. I do not defend Coach Fookes for what she has done for "my player" but rather on the basis of what I see her do as a coach, mentor, and confidant for all her players. "My player" has had no bed of roses as she gets as much tough love as anybody. But she has taken that in the spirit in which it has been given and the improvement and results are there.

One has to but look at situations where Moss has been out of the line-up, with foul trouble or for whatever reason. The Boone team finds other players to score and rebound and win. They have great senior leadership from players who have been there and those girls know how to lead and to win.

Geez!....or Wow!.....or any other number of exclamations! I had vowed to stay out of this "If's, and's and but's" thread but it has turned rather nasty with a lot of, IMHO, very questionable "facts" and "conclusions" being thrown out. Is this an intense rivalry? Yes, having been on both sides of it I would say it definitely is. But the fact remains, it has been dominated by Boone County. Boone has won 19 of 20 games, the only Ryle win being when Moss was an 8th grader at Ryle and scored 18 points in a 62-51 Ryle win AT Boone County. Of course Boone won the rematch in the district tourney that season by 18 points. It should now be Ryle's turn to step to the plate and reverse the trend. They return all but one player from this season and will definitely be the favorite in Region 9 next year. But it will remain a rivalry and will be as intense as ever. As to Nell Fookes being able to only win with transfers and therefore is overrated as a coach, that's simply ridiculous and the outcry of the folks who are tired of getting their butts kicked by her teams. Sorry, you don't win ~550 games, average 22+ wins per season over 25 years, win 75+% of your games, win 17 district championships, win 9 district championships, be named to the basketball coaches Court of Honor by the Kentucky Association of Basketball Coaches and the Kentucky High School Athletic Association, be inducted into the Northern Kentucky Athletic Directors Hall of Fame in, be and honored as the Coach of the Decade for the 1990's by the Greater Cincinnati Coaches Association by just getting transfers. Such an assertion is patently.........well to put it bluntly........stupid! By the way, Fookes has been officially notified by the National High School Athletic Coaches Association (NHSACA) of her selection as a 2010 National Coach of the Year Finalist. And speaking of transfers, the statement was made that Oliverio took over a Ryle team that was 9-10 and took them to 21-7 with "basically the same team". That isn't quite correct. The 2007-2008 team had at least Moss, Crittendon, and Jump as new members who were solid contributors, with Moss being the second leading scorer (and second leading rebounder) and Crittendon the fourth leading scorer after both were brought up from the Gray Middle School squad, and Jump was the fifth leading scorer. Hardly the same team and obviously more talented, but a nice coaching job by Oliverio in using young talent. And on with transfers, as though they only occur at Boone. The question was raised "Maybe Nell should be asking herself how Ryle is so close to her in such a short period of time. Not to mention the transfer from Ryle?" The answer? Those maligned transfers. Has anyone checked to see how many Ryle players don't live in the Ryle district? Yeah, I know there is an "explanation" for these but to accuse Boone of using transfers while ignoring the out-of-district players on the Ryle squad is hypocrisy at its best. All schools will have transfers from time to time. They, in and of themselves don't assure winning. Good coaches win and win over long periods of time, transfers or no. Coach Fookes has done that. Coach comparisons? I could get deeply into that because I've seen both up close. But I won't get into direct comparisons for what should be obvious reasons. I will say that I had the same "external view" opinion of Coach Fookes prior to this season. I only saw the yelling and stomping on the sideline and thought I didn't particularly care for that. Interestingly enough, early last season, when Moss was still at Ryle and we were watching a Northern Exposure Tourney game, I asked her, while watching Coach Fookes "in action", "Could you play for her?" and got a quick response "Sure I could". That has proven prophetic because Moss, after absolutely regressing as a player last season, has improved by leaps and bounds this season under Fookes. And I've gotten to see Fookes beyond that "external view" I mentioned. I've found her to be an intense, demanding coach but one who is genuinely interested in her players as students and as people. I'll take that combination every day of the week and twice on Sunday! I recently had a discussion with a sports writer who covers NKY HS sports. He, an impartial observer in terms of having no tie to any of the teams, told me he had the same experience. He initially watched Fookes and thought "I don't think I'd want my daughter playing for her". Then, over time and observing past the obvious, he said he also saw beyond the "external view" and realized all the other things Fookes does and how much she cares about her players. Again, I didn't want to post on this "issue" but found it so one-sided that I just figured I had to have my say. Now I'm going to head to the State Tournament and enjoy whatever the results are for the Boone County Rebels! :walk: It has already been an outstanding season. :thumb:

From Jody Demling's Sunday night hoops nuggets in the Louisville C-J: With Louisville coach Jeff Walz watching, sophomore Sydney Moss scored 13 points in a late stretch to help lead Boone County past Ryle 32-30 in the Ninth Region girls' final. Link to entire blog: http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html

Outstanding job as usual, paNDA! Thanks for the great work you do..........it is appreciated! :clap:

All-Tournament team: Villa Madonna - Chelsea Case; Bellevue - Megan Arnzen; Holy Cross - DeAsia Beal; Newport Central Catholic - Courtney Sandfoss; Notre Dame - Payton Schilling, Lesley Drees; St. Henry - Taylor Gamm, Carly McArtor; Ryle - Jenna Crittendon, Abby Jump; Boone County - Joscelyn Davis, Heather Sandlin. MVP - Sydney Moss (Boone County).

Christian Academy led Sacred Heart by 42-39, had the ball, and had just called a TO.

A loss of power on the Bellarmine campus stopped one game midway through the fourth quarter and prevented two others from being played. See the link for the story and the reschedule. Amazing, having to pick up a game with 4:34 left after a day's delay! http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100304/SPORTS05/3040351/1031/Power+outage+forces+regional+rescheduling+at+Bellarmine

Can't or just too wise to do so?!?! You headed to the A-10 Tournament? If so tell Jacy we said hello and good luck.