I'm not an NFL Security Investigator so the obvious answer is no. But my point is its not clean because they were paying each other to injure opposing players. And I guarantee some bounties were paid for illegal hits. And before you ask, no I don't have any form of evidence backing that statement up.

 

 

So basically you hate the Saints, and because of this the hits had to be illegal....Gotcha.

I'm not an NFL Security Investigator so the obvious answer is no. But my point is its not clean because they were paying each other to injure opposing players. And I guarantee some bounties were paid for illegal hits. And before you ask, no I don't have any form of evidence backing that statement up.

 

 

Wouldn't they have to pay fines for illegal hits(see James Harrison) if they were illegally hitting with intent to injure? How did these hits with intent to injure escape the ESPN, NFL front office radar?

This is all a joke. Let me get his right....guys are being paid millions to hit people hard but it's a problem because the Saints paid as much as 10K to knock Favre out of the game and a couple of thousand for someone being carted off the field. At least they get paid. In college you just get some stickers on your helmet.

 

 

This has been blown WAY out of proportion. I see it as a non-issue that almost every single team does. I have no issue with it either.

Wouldn't they have to pay fines for illegal hits(see James Harrison) if they were illegally hitting with intent to injure? How did these hits wih intent to injure escape the ESPN, NFL front office radar?

 

 

It's because they were legal hits that, as Golic said on M&M this morning, would've been made bounty or no bounty.

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Every team in every form of football encourages big hits. The Saints paid players extra to injure someone. There is a difference.

 

And it wasn't just players behind it either. It was the defensive coordinator, the head coach and the GM encouraging it. And it was the GM who ignored the owners instructions to stop it, if I'm not mistaken.

 

If it were as common as you think, it wouldn't just be Greg Williams former teams being investigated at this point.

 

Of course it would. The natural progression would be to go to his current employer and his former employers to see if he did it there as well. They are building a case against him in particular as well as the Saints franchise as well. They aren't going to go out and investigate the Seahawks until they are finished with him.

So basically you hate the Saints, and because of this the hits had to be illegal....Gotcha.

 

I'll take a page out of your book. Where exactly did I say all of the hits were illegal? Gotcha right back. :lol:

 

When you start offering money for knock outs and cart offs, that's different than encouraging big hits or forced fumbles. How some people can't see that is beyond me.

 

One former player said a Greg Williams system was formed with malicious intent. That sounds clean and harmless.

So where were all the NFL fines for illegal hits then? Or was the NFL purposely looking the other way on these vicious and illegal hits? Maybe they were getting a chunk of the $ too? :lol:

This has been blown WAY out of proportion. I see it as a non-issue that almost every single team does. I have no issue with it either.

 

 

You have evidence that almost every team pays players for injuring opposing teams players?

Numerous players and ex players have made comments that would lead one to believe it's pretty common place. Ryan Clark went off today about how he wants to know who snitched.

So where were all the NFL fines for illegal hits then? Or was the NFL purposely looking the other way on these vicious and illegal hits? Maybe they were getting a chunk of the $ too? :lol:

 

Are you insinuating the Saints were never flagged for unnecessary roughness/late hits? You think some of those flags may have been the result of some player wanting that extra money for putting someone out of the game?

 

All I'm saying is that is a possibility. But my opinion is met with intense sarcasm as if I'm making some wild accusation that can't possibly be true.

Numerous players and ex players have made comments that would lead one to believe it's pretty common place. Ryan Clark went off today about how he wants to know who snitched.

 

And numerous players and coaches have also said while some form of bounty systems exist everywhere, ones with the intent to injure are not common and have no place in the league.

Are you insinuating the Saints were never flagged for unnecessary roughness/late hits? You think some of those flags may have been the result of some player wanting that extra money for putting someone out of the game?

 

All I'm saying is that is a possibility. But my opinion is met with intense sarcasm as if I'm making some wild accusation that can't possibly be true.

 

I'm saying if they were attempting to injure players with illegal hits there would've been fines from the NFL....Did that ever happen?

 

It's hard not to think of them as such when you've already come out and said you're extremely biased against the team in question.

And numerous players and coaches have also said while some form of bounty systems exist everywhere, ones with the intent to injure are not common and have no place in the league.

 

 

Yeah, because that would be a wise career move to say they're commonplace. What do you expect these guys to say? All this is doing is making the players develop an even tighter lid on the whole topic and keep everything even more hush hush than it is now.

I'm having a hard time understanding why a player would want to intentionally and possibly illegally hit someone for a couple grand and then have to pay at least a 25K fine. The logic behind that escapes me. They use the words intent to injure but you can get someone carted off the field with a perfectly legal hit.

Yeah, because that would be a wise career move to say they're commonplace. What do you expect these guys to say? All this is doing is making the players develop an even tighter lid on the whole topic and keep everything even more hush hush than it is now.

 

I'm talking about former players and coaches too.