February 28, 201214 yr That is why you should never say there are no exceptions as I did in my post. Yes, I believe Rubio would help bring in Latino votes. You got me on that one. And Palin was a good choice in the sense that a woman will help get female votes. The caveat always being that the choice must be someone who won't put their foot in their mouth. The problem with Rand Paul is he will would be a net loss in votes in a national general election. Those people who like him are going to vote Republican no matter what. But Paul will lose votes for Romney with the moderate voters where the election is won. Second, there is a high risk factor with Rand Paul that he would get "Palined" by the media and that would not be good for Romney. He would get "Palined" beyond belief and I would laugh at the comedic skits made about Rand Paul much like I did with Palin. My sense of humor needs this ticket. :lol:
February 28, 201214 yr I hope it happens for the hilarity of the campaign. No matter who is in the race, the debt should be funny enough to look at.
February 28, 201214 yr Very rarely will the VP help get votes. If anything, Palin for example, it probably hurts. Rubio could be an exception. Maybe. I've never based a vote on the VP. Never even came up once in my decision. I'd want "vanilla" with some good experience. Rand Paul would not fit that description.
February 28, 201214 yr For me...this is akin to putting McCain putting Palin on the ballot. I disagree. Palin was a desperate move by a very desperate campaign. Rand Paul would not be my choice as VP but it is not as horrible as Palin was. Rand would do MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better in debates with Biden than Palin did, actually, he is witty enough that he may be able to outshine Biden. Paul will also help shore up the more conservative vote than Palin could. While his views are further than many are comfortable with, his personablity and wit will be much better at selling the campaign than Palin.
February 28, 201214 yr So putting Rubio on the ballot wouldn't help garnish the latino vote? Generally I would say that your VP generally won't garner you many votes but I will agree with you on this exception when dealing with a growing nationality such as the hispanic vote.
February 28, 201214 yr For those of you saying that the VP doesn't matter, for the most part I agree. However the candidates always seem to think it does and they all make a big deal out of having athe better VP candidate. I don't think Paul would help at this point, SNL would begin having weekly Aqua Buddha skits and kill him to the the uninformed who base their opinions on skits and one liners from pundits on both sides.
February 28, 201214 yr I disagree. Palin was a desperate move by a very desperate campaign. Rand Paul would not be my choice as VP but it is not as horrible as Palin was. Rand would do MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better in debates with Biden than Palin did, actually, he is witty enough that he may be able to outshine Biden. Paul will also help shore up the more conservative vote than Palin could. While his views are further than many are comfortable with, his personablity and wit will be much better at selling the campaign than Palin. Rand Paul, though, is pandering. Romney is pandering for the hard right voters. He may fare better than Palin, but his main detraction will be his extremely right views. Romney is struggling already with both the far right and far left....disenfranchising the moderates will not help him at all. That was the crux of my issue with Palin...even before she showed her inexperience and (IMO) lack of knowledge. McCain made a blatant attempt at wooing the female voter by assuming she would fit the bill because she was a "hockey mom", attractive and popular.
February 28, 201214 yr Speaking of VP is there a chance that Obama could pick a new VP this time around, especially if he is way behind going into the convention. - Biden by most accounts is as big an idiot as Dan "Potatoes" Quayle and Al "I invented the internet" or if you prefer "Man-bear-pig" Gore, both of which were kept on the ticket for a shot at a second term. - Is there a chance he could be replaced? With say Hillary? - Would that be an unbeatable Dream Ticket for the Democrat ticket? If a mod thinks this needs to be in it's own thread feel free to move it.
February 28, 201214 yr From what I have gathered at this point Biden seems to be the choice to remain on as VP. I just ordered my Obama 2012 bumper sticker and it has Biden on there.
February 28, 201214 yr Speaking of VP is there a chance that Obama could pick a new VP this time around, especially if he is way behind going into the convention. - Biden by most accounts is as big an idiot as Dan "Potatoes" Quayle and Al "I invented the internet" or if you prefer "Man-bear-pig" Gore, both of which were kept on the ticket for a shot at a second term. - Is there a chance he could be replaced? With say Hillary? - Would that be an unbeatable Dream Ticket for the Democrat ticket? If a mod thinks this needs to be in it's own thread feel free to move it. Proof the VP doesn't mean squat most of the time.
February 28, 201214 yr Speaking of VP is there a chance that Obama could pick a new VP this time around, especially if he is way behind going into the convention. - Biden by most accounts is as big an idiot as Dan "Potatoes" Quayle and Al "I invented the internet" or if you prefer "Man-bear-pig" Gore, both of which were kept on the ticket for a shot at a second term. - Is there a chance he could be replaced? With say Hillary? - Would that be an unbeatable Dream Ticket for the Democrat ticket? If a mod thinks this needs to be in it's own thread feel free to move it. Actually, Biden is NOT by "most accounts" an idiot. He's actually well respected by his peers. Hilary has already said no to the VP idea.
February 28, 201214 yr ^Biden is a moron. When your peers are the likes of Congress, I think it just reaffirms the belief that he is in fact an idiot. :lol:
February 29, 201214 yr Actually, Biden is NOT by "most accounts" an idiot. He's actually well respected by his peers. Hilary has already said no to the VP idea. Your are correct he is not an idiot, butneither were Quayle or Gore. But each are/were walking talking gaffe machines and all three come off as idiots to the general public. and agreeing with Mustang, Peers is not the best comparison for this discussion.
February 29, 201214 yr Your are correct he is not an idiot, butneither were Quayle or Gore. But each are/were walking talking gaffe machines and all three come off as idiots to the general public. and agreeing with Mustang, Peers is not the best comparison for this discussion. Well, it's kind of double edged sword. If Biden is not an idiot, as judged by his idiot peers, does it make anyone feel any better that Rand Paul might be well-regarded by his peers? :lol:
February 29, 201214 yr ^Biden is a moron. When your peers are the likes of Congress, I think it just reaffirms the belief that he is in fact an idiot. :lol: He really isn't a moron at all. And although I disagree with a lot of those in DC, I don't think most are idiots...just bull headed and self-serving. Total difference. For instance, I don't think Mitch McConnell is an idiot, but I think he's obstructionist to the nth degree.
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