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...apologize for the killing of the 2 Americans INSIDE the American compound. The shooter was just allowed to walk out unscathed.

 

After all our leader? apologized because some BOOKS were inadvertently burned.

 

And while were at it where are the so-called mainstream Muslims condemning the rioting and killing over the book burning? Why aren't they showing their righteous indignation that the few(their assertion) radicals are giving their entire religion a bad name.

 

Don't I remember the Taliban blowing up some ancient statues of Buddha a while back? Aren't these the same people that are killing over the BOOKS being burned?

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I do think you bring up a good point. I do not want to get to involved with this discussion, but you see constant burnings of American Flags, etc. in other countries and I am not aware of many public outcries (on either end) or apologies that ever take place.

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Islamist dont have to apologize, they are allowed to do this since it is justified.

 

Most Islamists do not subscribe to the hate you are alluding in your posts. Just as the overwhelming majority of Christians/Americans do not support Qur'ans being burned.

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Most Islamists do not subscribe to the hate you are alluding in your posts. Just as the overwhelming majority of Christians/Americans do not support Qur'ans being burned.

 

I dont support or care the Quaran was burned. Our flags and Bibles are burned everyday in the Middle East and I dont go around killing Muslims for it.

TOLERANCE, there is none in the Middle East.

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I see two things that bother me in this event.

 

#1 AllTell is right, where is the Afghan's government in these events? No manhunt to find the killer and bring him/her to justice. That disturbs me greatly and if the US Government doesn't push that it leads to poor diplomacy IMO.

 

#2 I still can not believe that in this day of understanding the impact of perception that our military is not trained better to handle soceital issues where they are going to serve us. How any leader of a military group thinks it is okay to just burn some Korans (for any good or bad reason) is beyond me. I sometimes think that our nation can be so advanced in so many ways and yet so ignorant in understanding important sociological issues. A well trained leader would have simply taken them to a local leader or Muslim Temple and said: "Here, these are left over. Can you do whatever your faith perscribes we should do with these."

 

Neither action (#1 or #2) justifies the other. Just simple observations that bother me about the whole crisis.

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I don't get this constant "well they were meanies, too" thinking. Why do we get bothered by them not doing the right thing like we do. We have higher expectations of our citizenry than we do of extremists. Why do we act surprised? They do what they do.

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Yeah, they kill people and we apologize for ACCIDENTALLY burning 2 books.

 

Sorry, don't even come close to seeing the equivalent.

 

I'm sorry I am totally over the whole mainstream/extremist separation. When mainstream Muslims demonstrate outrage at the actions of the so called extremists I may give some credence to the separation.

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Yeah, they kill people and we apologize for ACCIDENTALLY burning 2 books.

 

Sorry, don't even come close to seeing the equivalent.

 

I'm sorry I am totally over the whole mainstream/extremist separation. When mainstream Muslims demonstrate outrage at the actions of the so called extremists I may give some credence to the separation.

 

Who says we have to be equivalent? We're better. We did the right thing. Are you saying that we shouldn't do the right thing if we think the other side will not? I don't think that's the way we should operate.

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Is CAIR saying anything?

 

Is the Muslim Brotherhood saying anything?

 

NONE are saying anything condeming the killing of Americans. But we are laying in the same bed with both groups. Bowing to each of them, not wanting to make them mad. We're sorry here, we're sorry there, we're sorry for that, we're sorry for this. We say sorry so they dont get mad but an apology isnt going to keep them from killing us, only shows our weakness to them.

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Who says we have to be equivalent? We're better. We did the right thing. Are you saying that we shouldn't do the right thing if we think the other side will not? I don't think that's the way we should operate.

 

I disagree. IMO this was a non-issue and Obama apologizing for it made it an issue. It gave credibility to those that are rioting because our leader says we were wrong and I'm still not certain that we were.

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Do you realize that these books had already been "desecrated" by the prisoners. They were writing in them (which is forbidden) in order to pass messages.

 

 

Yes, I realize that. But doesn't it make more sense to be culturally aware to take the "desecrated Korans" to Islamic leadership and tell them to do with them what they feel is right, rather than the "foreigners/infidels" doing it????? What is so hard for leadership to understand that??

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I disagree. IMO this was a non-issue and Obama apologizing for it made it an issue. It gave credibility to those that are rioting because our leader says we were wrong and I'm still not certain that we were.

 

I could be mistaken but I thought the riots and demonstrations occurred before Obama apologized.

 

I think the murders (no other way to describe it) have changed the diplomacy of this situation totally IMO. We should pursue every diplomatic channel of pressure to bring justice to the killer through the Afgani government and if not we find ways to show our "anger."

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