February 22, 201214 yr I don't recall the ones in Lexington serving beer. Do they in Louisville? Can't speak for any in Lexington or Louisville, only the Northern Kentucky ones. They serve beer and it is right next to the bingo tables.
February 22, 201214 yr I have been tothe boat in Indiana before, had a great time. I didnt spend my kids college fund, max out a credit card, or rob someone to have money to spend. I went in with 75.00 and that is all I spent, I left with 0.00 But I feel it does hurt those who can not control or have will power to not waste their life in this. It is an addiction and hurts a lot of families. If one family be saved from the downfall of gambling then it is worth not having. What about the guards who gambled for Jesus clothes while he was dying on the cross? Would Jesus go to the boat and play blackjack? So I'm assuming you're against alcohol? How about pain medications? How about smoking?
February 22, 201214 yr [quote=mountain ref;4287515 If one family be saved from the downfall of gambling then it is worth not having. Does this same logic apply to alcohol and tobacco use? Are you for smoking being banned? Bars being closed?
February 22, 201214 yr I have been tothe boat in Indiana before, had a great time. I didnt spend my kids college fund, max out a credit card, or rob someone to have money to spend. I went in with 75.00 and that is all I spent, I left with 0.00But I feel it does hurt those who can not control or have will power to not waste their life in this. It is an addiction and hurts a lot of families. If one family be saved from the downfall of gambling then it is worth not having.What about the guards who gambled for Jesus clothes while he was dying on the cross?Would Jesus go to the boat and play blackjack?In Indiana, there is a very strict program in place for not only identifying problem gamblers, but in educating them in their options. So, a person can self-report, or they can be reported by a casino. In addition, bans can be for a short time, can be casino specific, can include all Indiana casinos, and/or be permanent.In addition operators are prohibited from contacting any patron who has put themselves on "the list". They cannot contact them by direct mail, e-mail or phone call. Fines are hefty if this happens. Databases are scrubbed at a minimum of once a week to ensure all such data is cleared so operations can continue as normal. The excuse that gamblers who can't control themselves are victims is not a valid one, if such a program is in place.http://www.indianaproblemgambling.org/
February 22, 201214 yr In Indiana, there is a very strict program in place for not only identifying problem gamblers, but in educating them in their options. So, a person can self-report, or they can be reported by a casino. In addition, bans can be for a short time, can be casino specific, can include all Indiana casinos, and/or be permanent.In addition operators are prohibited from contacting any patron who has put themselves on "the list". They cannot contact them by direct mail, e-mail or phone call. Fines are hefty if this happens. Databases are scrubbed at a minimum of once a week to ensure all such data is cleared so operations can continue as normal. The excuse that gamblers who can't control themselves are victims is not a valid one, if such a program is in place.http://www.indianaproblemgambling.org/I really good friend of mine recognized he had a problem and banned himself for life from Indiana casinos. Great program.
February 22, 201214 yr Author So he is an idiot because he is against gambling. I dont think many preachers are for gambling. It would be nice if someone didnt call a preacher an idiot. But woe is anyone who call the President a muslim or woe is anyone who is for Christian values. After all money is the root of all evil. No, he's an idiot because this is already going on. The bulk of the proceeds are just funding Indiana schools. As I said, he and others like him need to get their freakin' heads out of the sand on this issue and face the reality that it's already going on, and it's pointless for Kentuckians to be funding schools and roads in neighboring states with their gambling money, when we sorely need it here.
February 22, 201214 yr I have been tothe boat in Indiana before, had a great time. I didnt spend my kids college fund, max out a credit card, or rob someone to have money to spend. I went in with 75.00 and that is all I spent, I left with 0.00 But I feel it does hurt those who can not control or have will power to not waste their life in this. It is an addiction and hurts a lot of families. If one family be saved from the downfall of gambling then it is worth not having. What about the guards who gambled for Jesus clothes while he was dying on the cross? Would Jesus go to the boat and play blackjack? We can't ban everything because some people misuse it. Would Jesus tell the state they can't have casinos or would he understand what everyone else in this thread is trying to explain to you?
February 22, 201214 yr Would Jesus go to the boat and play blackjack? Would Jesus tell the state they can't have casinos or would he understand what everyone else in this thread is trying to explain to you?You are both asking the wrong question. There is NO WAY the boat would allow Jesus to step foot on the property. With his abilities he'd take the casino to the cleaners and they aren't about to let that happen...
February 22, 201214 yr You are both asking the wrong question. There is NO WAY the boat would allow Jesus to step foot on the property. With his abilities he'd take the casino to the cleaners and they aren't about to let that happen... That is funny.
February 22, 201214 yr You are both asking the wrong question. There is NO WAY the boat would allow Jesus to step foot on the property. With his abilities he'd take the casino to the cleaners and they aren't about to let that happen... :lol: Nicely done!
February 22, 201214 yr I don't recall the ones in Lexington serving beer. Do they in Louisville? They don't to atheists.
February 22, 201214 yr No, he's an idiot because this is already going on. The bulk of the proceeds are just funding Indiana schools. As I said, he and others like him need to get their freakin' heads out of the sand on this issue and face the reality that it's already going on, and it's pointless for Kentuckians to be funding schools and roads in neighboring states with their gambling money, when we sorely need it here. If that's his religious conviction it does not matter if it's already going on or how the money is used. To ask him to put aside those convictions for those reasons would be wrong. We may not agree with them but it's wrong to refer to him as an idiot.
February 22, 201214 yr Author If that's his religious conviction it does not matter if it's already going on or how the money is used. To ask him to put aside those convictions for those reasons would be wrong. We may not agree with them but it's wrong to refer to him as an idiot. He can have all the religious convictions he wants. If he's that worried about it, he should preach the dangers to his flock, not bully the rest of the population -- who don't agree with him -- by pounding them over the head with Bibles. Do you agree that it's stupid to tuck your head in the sand and say "we don't want that here" when the people "here" are already engaging in said behavior? That makes about as much sense as trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.
February 22, 201214 yr Look, I can accept some people, especially the clergy will oppose it. HOWEVER, using hyperbole like being afraid a scourge will befall us is absurd. It's extreme. I can respect a logical argument rooted in fact. I can't stomach fear mongering, which is exactly what using such a phrase is doing.
February 23, 201214 yr He can have all the religious convictions he wants. If he's that worried about it, he should preach the dangers to his flock, not bully the rest of the population -- who don't agree with him -- by pounding them over the head with Bibles. Do you agree that it's stupid to tuck your head in the sand and say "we don't want that here" when the people "here" are already engaging in said behavior? That makes about as much sense as trying to put toothpaste back in the tube. I see, so regardless if you have strong convictions that something is wrong, don't say anything, particularly if it's already happening. That concept would have delayed many good things over the years. To answer your question, no, I don't believe it is stupid. What I think is stupid is NOT to say something is wrong if you truly believe it is wrong. If it's already taking place, you should speak up even louder.
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