Brossart Brossart Wins JV District

[UKFAN4EVER]

If you are asking about SK, I know there was at least one. There could have been another, but I am not for sure. The one that I know of had played only JV and some Varsity minutes through the season until this tournament.

I was talking about Brossart, but what does it prove when you bring players down to play JV and Freshmen.

[TripleSevens]

U r kinda makin my point for me - that if you really want to win a JV or Freshman tourney you can stack a team - pull players up or down. Will that team be a true representation of the talent you have at that level? If you stack and win and the others don't, what does that prove?

 

Will that team be a true representation of the talent you have at that level?

I think it is obvious that if all your freshmen are playing together, and not divided up, then it is the truest representation or display of what your program has in that class.

 

If you stack and win and the others don't, what does that prove?

Again, it is obvious...it proves that you have a lot of talent in that class, and that you have a bright future.

 

No, I am not making your point. Your point was that it was "extremely" skewed, as in, it made no difference whatsoever and freshmen basketball had absolutely no bearings on future success. My point, on the other hand, was that it's not as skewed as you say and that it can and will have an effect on the future success of that school.

[BlueKrush]

I think it is obvious that if all your freshmen are playing together, and not divided up, then it is the truest representation or display of what your program has in that class.

 

That only half shows you what you have - how do you know how good you are if the teams you are playing have their talent spread out across 3 teams and are filling their roster with 8th graders? You are comparing apples to Jello. That's my point.

[Lawnboy13]

That only half shows you what you have - how do you know how good you are if the teams you are playing have their talent spread out across 3 teams and are filling their roster with 8th graders? You are comparing apples to Jello. That's my point.

 

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[242]

:cool:They don't bother me. I know who they are so with me it's always just "consider the source." I think they go over the line though when they make fun of the kid or the accomplishment. Varsity is at a different level than jv and freshmen however it means a lot to the coaches and players regardless of the level of play. It is usually someone bitter, someone having issues or someone fired in the past so they try to be "big" by posting here as their only way of trying to be important. When i post.... I post positive game info on our games. If I choose to post only on wins thats my choice. It is America, a free country. This is not a job or I don't work for BGP. I post positive game reports. Losses to me are not positive. Good luck to everyone is post season.

 

Looks like BGH is still grinding an ax with the first bold comment and as for the second bold comment.....info on games usually consists of good and bad results. Kind of like the stats to the KHSAA or Enquirer. Good and bad results along with more accurate stats??

[TripleSevens]

That only half shows you what you have - how do you know how good you are if the teams you are playing have their talent spread out across 3 teams and are filling their roster with 8th graders? You are comparing apples to Jello. That's my point.

 

I know well and clear what your point was. It was clear. You said that freshmen teams success is extremely skewed and was not a predictor at all for future success.

 

It's also clear...I disagree. Although it is not an exact science or direct proof of future success, it is however more meaningful and insightful to a programs future success than what you stated. You basically said it does not matter and it is useless to the future success of the program. I am stating that it matters more than you say and it can be a good indicator to what is coming up in a programs future.

 

In other words, I am giving it place as a possible indicator and you were not at all.

 

And BTW, your question is not based on what I said, if you would go back and look. I said the team with 8th/7th graders was the team winning, not getting beat. I am not talking about looking at the team that is beating 8th graders. I clearly said there are teams that won a lot starting 8th and 7th graders. That, in my opinion, would be an indicator that the school has some quality players in the pipe line and therefore, it would not be, extremely skewed.

 

Keep playing with your jello and apples, in the mean time, I will pay attention to those things that you think don't matter.

[mcpapa]

I've always been of the opinion that freshman games and varsity games are much, much more meaningful than junior varsity games.

[The Dawg]

Sounds to me that Bluekrush's team of choice must not done so well with this freshman & JV district thing. Or he has a real big problem with Brossart or BGH. JMO

[TripleSevens]

Sounds to me that Bluekrush's team of choice must not done so well with this freshman & JV district thing. Or he has a real big problem with Brossart or BGH. JMO

 

That does appear to be true. :thumb:

[rjs4470]

I'll take any championship, regardless of what level it comes on. However, freshman and JV titles aren't always a great predictor of future success, especially in basketball. Realistically, by the time that freshman class hits their senior year, most of the time there only 3 or 4 players left at most. Future success is more dependendant on how well the top 3 or four players of each class (mostly sophs thru senior) fit together.....maybe even less than 3 or 4 per class, since most teams go at most 8 deep. Winning those lower level titles though, helps keep your pipeline full, and attracts people to the program, so yes they are important.

[BigGreenHorse]

Just for the record....Bishop Brossart has used the same varsity roster of 12 players all year. Four juniors and eight sophomore. There are no freshmen or seniors on the young roster. The junior varsity has a few juniors, mostly sophomores and for most of the year three freshmen "dress" jv after the freshmen games are over. The freshmen team has been 5 freshmen and five eighth graders all year. Only in the final few games when the freshmen regional was over did a few more dress for those final jv games. Brossart has been very consistent in this unlike others who dropped freshmen varsity starters down to play in the freshmen tournaments etc.

[BlueKrush]

That does appear to be true. :thumb:

 

777 - the other users that share the same opinion I do - does that mean they all hate BGH and BBHS? How typical of you to jump to that conclusion. Whatever you post is correct, but disagreeing with your opinion makes you a hater/ax grinder?

 

To use your logic in the other direction, you absolutely accept whatever BGH posts as Gospel, and you are a 100% homer all the time for BBHS. Is that a fair label to place on you?

[TripleSevens]

777 - the other users that share the same opinion I do - does that mean they all hate BGH and BBHS? How typical of you to jump to that conclusion. Whatever you post is correct, but disagreeing with your opinion makes you a hater/ax grinder?

 

To use your logic in the other direction, you absolutely accept whatever BGH posts as Gospel, and you are a 100% homer all the time for BBHS. Is that a fair label to place on you?

 

 

Sounds like apples and jello....:sssh:

 

If you saw consistent posts where I was a 100% BBHS homer and a BGH follower, then yes, it would be a fair label, but you don't and won't see that if you look.

 

You, on the other hand, had a nice consistent run of "differing opinions" that contained instigating, smart-elic posts toward BGH. There wasn't any jumping to conclusions. I think you can appreciate, I was just "stating my opinion" and "calling it like I see it".

 

 

And BTW, it seems that you are a bit defensive. That also, is a sign of having an ax to grind.

[BlueKrush]

Seems to me you're the one squirming . . go read my posts where I agree that they are a top 10 team in NKY this year, and I said they will be a real powerhouse next year (and I also predicted their VB team will win the 10th this fall) Hardly the words of a hater. And you never did answer the question about those who agree with me. This is pointless and completely off topic. Out.