Bethlehem 55 Bardstown 36

[Jim Schue]

Eagles get their first win over the Tigers since 2007. Bethlehem will be the top seed in the 19th District tournament after handing Bardstown its first loss to a 5th Region team since December 2010.

[madman]

They probably were still feeling the effects of the heart breaking loss at the All A State.

[mcpapa]

With some of the high-profile upsets last night, this one may have flown under the radar. Huge turnaround from the 5th Region All-A a couple of weeks ago.

[gold sunrise]

Just now saw this, agree with papa.

[Jim Schue]

With some of the high-profile upsets last night, this one may have flown under the radar. Huge turnaround from the 5th Region All-A a couple of weeks ago.

 

Honestly, I wouldn't call it that big of an upset. Bethlehem lost by just three at Bardstown in their first meeting. When you factor in that last night was the Tigers' sixth game in eight days, coming in off an emotionally draining loss like the All A final, and that Bethlehem is at full strength finally after its top two guards had each missed several weeks to injuries, I kind of expected the Eagles to win.

[JokersWild24]

What type of chance does Bethlehem have to do this again in district/region?

 

I notice both Bardstown and Bethlehem are in the same district, does the 19th draw or seed?

[Jim Schue]

What type of chance does Bethlehem have to do this again in district/region?

 

I notice both Bardstown and Bethlehem are in the same district, does the 19th draw or seed?

 

Seeded. They will almost certainly be playing each other in the district finals. An Artie Braden-coached team is always dangerous, especially one with lots of veterans.

[JokersWild24]

Seeded. They will almost certainly be playing each other in the district finals. An Artie Braden-coached team is always dangerous, especially one with lots of veterans.

 

Thanks for the info. Was doing my picks for the contest this evening and saw that he was their coach and remembered him taking John Hardin to their first (and only) ever trip to Rupp. Seems like he had some regional contenders during that time as well. Considering that Bardstown and Bethlehem are very likely to play in the district finals, who are some of the teams, if any that each would probably want to avoid in the draw? With this win, would this put each at 1-2 in the region? Also, how physical is Bardstown? With the 6th Region officials calling their tournament, it would seem that all other things being held equal, the more physical team would get an edge (the way I like watching games played, and not a knock on the Louisville area officials).

[Jim Schue]

Thanks for the info. Was doing my picks for the contest this evening and saw that he was their coach and remembered him taking John Hardin to their first (and only) ever trip to Rupp. Seems like he had some regional contenders during that time as well. Considering that Bardstown and Bethlehem are very likely to play in the district finals, who are some of the teams, if any that each would probably want to avoid in the draw? With this win, would this put each at 1-2 in the region? Also, how physical is Bardstown? With the 6th Region officials calling their tournament, it would seem that all other things being held equal, the more physical team would get an edge (the way I like watching games played, and not a knock on the Louisville area officials).

 

The 5th Region is as rugged as it gets in Kentucky, so physical play is everyday life in this area. Bardstown, as defending champ, is the favorite, but Bethlehem definitely has more than a puncher's chance. Whoever emerges from the 17th District (E'town, North Hardin, John Hardin) are also dangerous. I don't really see anybody else in the 5th capable of winning the region.

[5wide]

I have a hard time buying Bethlehem as a legit contender. The schedule is lacking. They've only played two of the region's better teams, losing 3 of 4. The only win coming on their home court in highly favorable circumstances as previously mentioned.

 

That is how it looks to an outside observer anyway. What are the odds they can win the region? I'd love to have a good dark horse for my regional picks. I doubt many cards will have Bethlehem on them.

[statman]

I have a hard time buying Bethlehem as a legit contender. The schedule is lacking. They've only played two of the region's better teams, losing 3 of 4. The only win coming on their home court in highly favorable circumstances as previously mentioned.

 

That is how it looks to an outside observer anyway. What are the odds they can win the region? I'd love to have a good dark horse for my regional picks. I doubt many cards will have Bethlehem on them.

 

At least one does, right AYG?

[Jim Schue]

I have a hard time buying Bethlehem as a legit contender. The schedule is lacking. They've only played two of the region's better teams, losing 3 of 4. The only win coming on their home court in highly favorable circumstances as previously mentioned.

 

That is how it looks to an outside observer anyway. What are the odds they can win the region? I'd love to have a good dark horse for my regional picks. I doubt many cards will have Bethlehem on them.

 

They fell 64-61 at Bardstown in their other district meeting, and they were without their point guard at that time, and their other top guard had just come back from knee surgery in the fall. The Tigers' 34-point win in the All A regional was an aberration of Bardstown shooting as well as they possibly can, and the Eagles playing about as poorly as possible.

 

I agree that the Bethlehem schedule leaves something to be desired, and it would be an upset if they were to win the region. But it wouldn't be a huge surprise, and they are capable. Don't sleep on their chances.

[5wide]

They fell 64-61 at Bardstown in their other district meeting, and they were without their point guard at that time, and their other top guard had just come back from knee surgery in the fall. The Tigers' 34-point win in the All A regional was an aberration of Bardstown shooting as well as they possibly can, and the Eagles playing about as poorly as possible.

 

I agree that the Bethlehem schedule leaves something to be desired, and it would be an upset if they were to win the region. But it wouldn't be a huge surprise, and they are capable. Don't sleep on their chances.

 

:thumb:

 

BTW, I'm not trying to knock them. Just asking a serious question. Sometimes its worth taking a shot on a sleeper to keep from changing other picks. Bethlehem was one of the teams I was considering for that potentially.

[Ed]

Sorry, but the 5th region is not as "rugged as it gets" in KY. It is a relatively weak region, with a few good teams. Bardstown and John Hardin are probably the two best overall teams. North Hardin, now that all of their suspended players have returned, is a good team. Etown is another good team. All the rest are a notch below. Whoever wins the 5th is not really a contender for the state title.

[statman]

Sorry, but the 5th region is not as "rugged as it gets" in KY. It is a relatively weak region, with a few good teams. Bardstown and John Hardin are probably the two best overall teams. North Hardin, now that all of their suspended players have returned, is a good team. Etown is another good team. All the rest are a notch below. Whoever wins the 5th is not really a contender for the state title.

 

Not to mention playing the last game on Thursday night at Rupp...brutal road!!