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Parents Facebook post cost TN. high school team wins

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Comedian Ron White says it best......."You just can't fix stupid" :cool:

 

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Agreed! I've seen it do way more harm than good already...

What a dufus.

 

I think we are going to see a shift in trend with facebook. I'm about done with it myself. In terms of need to know info, Twitter is the thing to have. My days with facebook are close to being done. Between reading stuff like this, coupled with seeing a full page of comments like "Just had a salad and did the laundry!" or "Had a nice run this morning!"; I can't take it anymore. Do the people posting that crap really think anybody gives a crap?

I get that what the mother did was cheating according to Tenn. high school athletic association but the basis for the reason of that rule is an interesting argument. They should not punish citizens of the U.S. for wanting to give their children a better opportunity. If these young men were living in the district with a family member then that means they were fulfilling the need of the school (money) b/c their family was paying some type of tax. IN TWO CITIES! Not only were these folks fulfilling the desired outcome for the school--kids go where they want, they are happy, enjoying success. All because this family had a "part" of it (ma) in a different city, should not be a crime. We sometimes forget that publicly funded schools get "per child" dollars. Anyway, school had to vacate wins, the rule was enforced--so be it. I have no dog in the fight but a parent should be able to make a decision on the future and well being of the child. So what if they can play some ball. It should be education first, sports next... IMO, --off the soapbox...

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I get that what the mother did was cheating according to Tenn. high school athletic association but the basis for the reason of that rule is an interesting argument. They should not punish citizens of the U.S. for wanting to give their children a better opportunity. If these young men were living in the district with a family member then that means they were fulfilling the need of the school (money) b/c their family was paying some type of tax. IN TWO CITIES! Not only were these folks fulfilling the desired outcome for the school--kids go where they want, they are happy, enjoying success. All because this family had a "part" of it (ma) in a different city, should not be a crime. We sometimes forget that publicly funded schools get "per child" dollars. Anyway, school had to vacate wins, the rule was enforced--so be it. I have no dog in the fight but a parent should be able to make a decision on the future and well being of the child. So what if they can play some ball. It should be education first, sports next... IMO, --off the soapbox...

 

That's all fine and dandy, but the fact of the matter is that in states such as Ky and Tennessee, education takes a back seat -- waaaaaayyyyyyy back -- to sports. That's why Jim Bunning was elected to the US Senate, it's why Scotty Baesler was elected mayor of Lexington, and it's why David Williams has an outside chance to be governor with Richie Farmer on board as his Lieutenant.

Interestingly, it's how the TSSAA learned that part of the family was still residing in Henry County that has garnered the most attention.

 

Does anyone believe that the TSSAA is constantly browsing FB? Zero chance they learned about this in any other way than being turned in by someone.

That's all fine and dandy, but the fact of the matter is that in states such as Ky and Tennessee, education takes a back seat -- waaaaaayyyyyyy back -- to sports. That's why Jim Bunning was elected to the US Senate, it's why Scotty Baesler was elected mayor of Lexington, and it's why David Williams has an outside chance to be governor with Richie Farmer on board as his Lieutenant.

 

How so? Especially when you compare KY and TN to states like Alabama, Ohio, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas, etc. who seem to have far more superior facilities for athletics and academics. I'd even add Indiana to that list. Take Mason County's gym for example; there are 4 or 5 high schools in the Southern Indiana area alone who have gyms as good, if not better than the fieldhouse @ Mason County.

 

Personally, I don't think Kentucky puts enough emphasis on bettering their athletic programs within our schools.

 

The best schools acadmically (ACT score's, I dont count NCLB scores, because those are at the disgression of each state in determining what is adequate AYP) in Kentucky, also have tend to have the best athletic programs.

 

I don't have the list in front of me, but I guarantee this; you show me the bottom 20% of academic schools in the state and Ill show you the bottom 20% of athletic programs, too. Granted, there is going to be an exception or two for that rule, like anything else.

Interestingly, it's how the TSSAA learned that part of the family was still residing in Henry County that has garnered the most attention.

 

Does anyone believe that the TSSAA is constantly browsing FB? Zero chance they learned about this in any other way than being turned in by someone.

 

And that's exactly what should have happened. If some shenanigans is going on, then turn them in.

Top 25 schools ACT scores for the 2009-2010 school year.

 

1. Lou. Dupont Manual 24.7

2. Beechwood 24.3

3. Ft. Thomas Highlands 23.1

4. Lex. Paul Laurence Dunbar (Fayette County) 22.7

5. North Oldham 22.1

6. Model Lab 21.8

7. South Oldham 21.7

8. Brown 21.6

9. Lou. Male 21.3, Walton Verona 21.3

10. Ryle (Boone County) 21.1

11. Pikeville 21.0

12. Bowling Green 20.8, Oldham Co. 20.8, Paintsville 20.8

13. Lex. Henry Clay (Fayette County), 20.7 Woodford Co. 20.7, E-town 20.7

14. Lone Oak (McCracken County) 20.6

15. Lou. Eastern 20.5

16. Harlan 20.4

18. Lex. LaFayette (Fayette County) 20.3, Lou. Ballard 20.3

18. Lex. Tates Creek (Fayette County) 20.0

19.. Conner (Boone County) 19.9, Murray 19.9, Greenwood (Warren County) 19.9, Williamstown 19.9

20. Berea 19.8, McLean Co. 19.8, Russell 19.8

21. Central Hardin 19.7, Scott High (Kenton Co.) 19.7, Marshall Co. 19.7, Paris 19.7

22. Campbell Co. 19.6, Corbin 19.6, Daviess Co. 19.6, Lou. Atherton 19.6, Perry Co. Central 19.6. Williamsburg 19.6

23. Lou. Butler 19.5, Dixie Hts. (Kenton County) 19.5, Scott Co. 19.5

24. LaRue County 19.4, Lloyd (Erlanger-Elsmere) 19.4, Madisonville North 19.4

 

Pretty good athletic programs, especially football and basketball, within that list wouldnt you say? There's some that can't play dead in either, but as a general rule. Great academics and great athletic programs typically go hand in hand. You don't have one without the other, generally.

The following schools from the list I posted above played in and/or won their sport(s) respected State Championship in the 2010 athletic year (2011 Spring Sports):

 

 

Boys Soccer- Central Hardin, Greenwood, Marshall County, Scott High, Dunbar, Daviess County, Oldham County, Highlands, Russell and Henry Clay

 

Girls Soccer- Central Hardin, Daviess County, Highlands, Bowling Green, Tates Creek, Manual

 

Football- Highlands, Male

 

Volleyball- Henry Clay, Lone Oak, Greenwood, South Oldham, Central Hardin

 

Girls Basketball- Bowling Green, Walton-Verona, Perry County Central, Manual, Butler

 

Boys Basketball- Marshall County, Oldham County, Dixie Heights, Eastern, Perry County Central

 

Softball- Ballard, Central Hardin, Walton-Verona, Lafayette, Ryle

 

Baseball- Central Hardin, Boyd County, North Oldham

 

Keep in mind that the private schools like Trinty, X, Newport Catholic, Owensboro Catholic, Mercy, Presentation, Assumption, etc. were not included in the ACT scores list so I didn't include them in this list, either. However, we all know that those schools ACT scores would have been in the top 25 with ease had had they been allowed. Schools that push athletics, also push academics. Schools that are average or below in one area, are often the same in the other.

26 of the 46 schools listed, participated in and/or won at least one KHSAA State Tournament in their respected sport(s). That's 56% in one year alone. That's not counting the likes of many other notables like Corbin, Pikeville, Scott County, Beechwood and E-town in the ACT list whom, on most years, have one or more of their athletic programs competing in KHSAA State Tournaments

What a dufus.

 

 

Because the mom posted the information on facebook? Or because she set her boys up for unforgettable embarrassment? Whether you agree with the rules or not---people are expected to follow the rules. Parents must make wise decisions on behalf of their children. You can't "have your cake and eat it too". If your intention is to give your kid the better sports/academic/social situation, you have to follow the rules and make sacrifices. Like it or not, you gotta cross your "T"s and dot your "i"s. There were countless other people before this family who wanted to make the change, transfer, etc. And in dong so, and following the rules, their kid missed out on playing a year of sports due to eligibilty. I am not saying I agree with all the rules and policies. But I will not feel sorry for those that choose to wiggle around the rules and then get caught.

"Just had a salad and did the laundry!" or "Had a nice run this morning!"; I can't take it anymore. Do the people posting that crap really think anybody gives a crap?

 

I do agree with your senitments toward Facebook. In so many ways it is people looking for validation on every day things that they do, which is sad.

I live very far away from family---so I enjoy facebook as a way to stay in touch with my 5 siblings, and my 20-plus nieces and nephews and all of their college stories. (mostly Wisconsin and Marquette!) It keeps our family connected. But the day to day stuff--('just went to the gym, just mowed the lawn..'), I could do without...

Top 25 schools ACT scores for the 2009-2010 school year.

 

1. Lou. Dupont Manual 24.7

2. Beechwood 24.3

3. Ft. Thomas Highlands 23.1

4. Lex. Paul Laurence Dunbar (Fayette County) 22.7

5. North Oldham 22.1

6. Model Lab 21.8

7. South Oldham 21.7

8. Brown 21.6

9. Lou. Male 21.3, Walton Verona 21.3

10. Ryle (Boone County) 21.1

11. Pikeville 21.0

12. Bowling Green 20.8, Oldham Co. 20.8, Paintsville 20.8

13. Lex. Henry Clay (Fayette County), 20.7 Woodford Co. 20.7, E-town 20.7

14. Lone Oak (McCracken County) 20.6

15. Lou. Eastern 20.5

16. Harlan 20.4

18. Lex. LaFayette (Fayette County) 20.3, Lou. Ballard 20.3

18. Lex. Tates Creek (Fayette County) 20.0

19.. Conner (Boone County) 19.9, Murray 19.9, Greenwood (Warren County) 19.9, Williamstown 19.9

20. Berea 19.8, McLean Co. 19.8, Russell 19.8

21. Central Hardin 19.7, Scott High (Kenton Co.) 19.7, Marshall Co. 19.7, Paris 19.7

22. Campbell Co. 19.6, Corbin 19.6, Daviess Co. 19.6, Lou. Atherton 19.6, Perry Co. Central 19.6. Williamsburg 19.6

23. Lou. Butler 19.5, Dixie Hts. (Kenton County) 19.5, Scott Co. 19.5

24. LaRue County 19.4, Lloyd (Erlanger-Elsmere) 19.4, Madisonville North 19.4

Pretty good athletic programs, especially football and basketball, within that list wouldnt you say? There's some that can't play dead in either, but as a general rule. Great academics and great athletic programs typically go hand in hand. You don't have one without the other, generally.

 

Some, yes. But the fact remains that if you were to ask the largest news outlets in the state what their most-read stories were on their websites, I'm willing to bet heavily that education stories pale miserably in comparison to sports stories.

 

And frankly, some of those numbers you posted aren't that great. I showed up half-drunk on an hour of sleep for my ACT and posted a 31. Forgive me if I'm not impressed by those numbers. For God's sake, Manual can pick the best and brightest in Louisville and their average is a 24.7? And I'm betting a lot of those kids went through a battery of pre-tests to prepare them.

I showed up half-drunk on an hour of sleep for my ACT and posted a 31.

Jealous!! I have a Junior WORKING HER TAIL OFF to get a score like that! WELL DONE, MR. SCHUE!

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