July 22, 201115 yr The NCAA has notified Ohio State University that it will not face charges of failing to appropriately monitor its football team as part of a memorabilia-sales scandal that brought down former Coach Jim Tressel. http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/07/22/ncaa-ohio-state-violations.html
July 25, 201115 yr Another one that baffles me. This further supports the theory that the NCAA is completely screwed up. I am not a Rhodes Scholar, but it seems on the surface that what occurred would be example A of failing to monitor a football team. This says it well. http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/30798279 Ohio State was lauded by many as having a large and well respected compliance office. Yet both the NCAA and Ohio State agreed in December that their education efforts were inadequate. That was the basis for allowing the so-called "Buckeye Five" to play in the Sugar Bowl. So Ohio State didn't do a good job at rules education in December but by July, according to the case summary, the institution "provided education to football student-athletes and staff regarding extra benefits and preferential treatment." That statement was contradicted by the enforcement staff five paragraphs later by the way. "The institution took monitoring efforts designed to identify the sale or distribution of institutionally issued athletics awards, apparel apparel and equipment," but somehow didn't know Terrele Pryor was taking "whatever" he wanted out of the equipment room. And let's not forget the school's treatment of their beloved "Senator." "This is an individual that I have tremendous respect for," University president E. Gordon Gee said of Tressel on March 8. "He's had great success in working with young people and we applaud that. But I think equally importantly, he's had great success in building the character and reputation for this university, which I'm entirely grateful for. He's done so by example." A few months later in the Buckeyes' self-report: "The institution is embarrassed by the actions of Tressel." At least the flip-flopping when they're backed into a corner is consistent. Edited July 25, 201115 yr by bugatti
July 25, 201115 yr Good news for the Buckeye faithful. Time to put the Tressel and TP era behind us and move on.
July 25, 201115 yr Time to put the Tressel and TP era behind us and move on.Appears that was the NCAA's decision as well. That is fine, but the ruling is perplexing when you compare to USC.
July 25, 201115 yr What a crock. Is the NCAA really THAT afraid of Ohio State? The only thing USC did worse than USC was lie about it for a longer period of time and not kiss the NCAA's butt. OSU's sins were far more widespread and long-tenured. Sorry but admitting to the crime when you've been caught should not count for a whole heck of alot for NCAA teams.
July 25, 201115 yr "OSU's sins were far more widespread and long-tenured." What are you basing this opinion on? I knew you would be on here complaining since you thought they would be getting the Death Penalty. Why does everyone keep comparing the OSU and USC cases? In what way are they similar?
July 25, 201115 yr "OSU's sins were far more widespread and long-tenured." What are you basing this opinion on? I knew you would be on here complaining since you thought they would be getting the Death Penalty. Why does everyone keep comparing the OSU and USC cases? In what way are they similar? 1) He did not think they were getting the death penalty. That was a small number of people nationwide that thought that. 2) No cases are similar in the NCAA office. But if you think this punishment is setting up to fit the crime, then I do not know what to tell you.
July 25, 201115 yr Appears that was the NCAA's decision as well. That is fine, but the ruling is perplexing when you compare to USC. As I stated in a previous thread, I firmly believe it was never the severity of the violations, that caused the level of punishment USC received. It was the actions USC took during the investigation. USC did not cooperate with the NCAA throughout the entire investigation over Reggie Bush. In fact, they attempted to hide information from investigators and practically dared the governing body to punish them. OSU has done the opposite.
July 25, 201115 yr What a crock. Is the NCAA really THAT afraid of Ohio State? The only thing USC did worse than USC was lie about it for a longer period of time and not kiss the NCAA's butt. OSU's sins were far more widespread and long-tenured. Sorry but admitting to the crime when you've been caught should not count for a whole heck of alot for NCAA teams. Comparing USCs case to OSUs is like comparing OJs acquittal to Casey Anthony’s. How is OSUs violations more widespread? USC was cited for violations involving three different sports over 3 years. Just because a reporter speculates that OSU violations began in 2001 doesn’t make it fact.
July 25, 201115 yr What a crock. Is the NCAA really THAT afraid of Ohio State? And no the NCAA is not afraid of Ohio State. They are afraid of Brutus, he is a nut after all.
July 25, 201115 yr Comparing USCs case to OSUs is like comparing OJs acquittal to Casey Anthony’s. How is OSUs violations more widespread? USC was cited for violations involving three different sports over 3 years. Just because a reporter speculates that OSU violations began in 2001 doesn’t make it fact. The other sports have nothing to do with football IMO. Sure they add to the punishment, but you cannot compare them fairly in this case. USC football = Reggie Bush's sins. OSU had how many players involved in this? This was run-in with the NCAA number 3 or so for Tressel, was it not? I know you're an OSU fan but justifying the slap on the wrist OSU is going to get is nuts. "OSU's sins were far more widespread and long-tenured." What are you basing this opinion on? I knew you would be on here complaining since you thought they would be getting the Death Penalty. Why does everyone keep comparing the OSU and USC cases? In what way are they similar? When did I ever say they'd get the death penalty? I thought they'd get the stiffest penalty since the death penalty for a college football program, but no one in their right mind would think the death penalty will be given again unless a program pays for their players and gets caught, and then while on probation does it again. Even then, they probably wouldn't get the SMU treatment. OSU and USC are similar because it is definitely a lack of institutional control. To me, OSU's sins were worse because the coach was directly (and eventually admittedly) involved. USC definitely knew what was going on with Bush, OSU obviously did with their players and it seems like it was at least indirectly incouraged by their head coach. Only an Ohio State fan could think this ruling and future rulings on this case will fit the crime.
July 25, 201115 yr As I stated in a previous thread, I firmly believe it was never the severity of the violations, that caused the level of punishment USC received. It was the actions USC took during the investigation. USC did not cooperate with the NCAA throughout the entire investigation over Reggie Bush. In fact, they attempted to hide information from investigators and practically dared the governing body to punish them. OSU has done the opposite. Let's be honest though, Ohio State only took the "high road" because they were caught and there was no way around it. Had their problems been a singular one in terms of just being one player, that liar Jim Tressel would have defended OSU's actions until his dying breath.
July 25, 201115 yr And no the NCAA is not afraid of Ohio State. They are afraid of Brutus, he is a nut after all.:lol: In fairness no punishment has yet to be handed down so we shall see what the verdict is. At first glance you have to be ecstatic to be a tOSU fan.
July 25, 201115 yr 1) He did not think they were getting the death penalty. That was a small number of people nationwide that thought that. 2) No cases are similar in the NCAA office. But if you think this punishment is setting up to fit the crime, then I do not know what to tell you. From the Terrelle Pryor is leaving thread form a while back: Quote "This is only going to get worse for OSU. I think they are going to get as close to the death penalty as a team can get in today's time" I am not the one that compared the OSU situation to the USC case and secondly the NCAA has not made a final ruling yet so we don't even know what the punishments will be. You can read my past posts if you like but I have always argued that OSU would not get hammered like some on this board and the media thought.
July 25, 201115 yr From the Terrelle Pryor is leaving thread form a while back: Quote "This is only going to get worse for OSU. I think they are going to get as close to the death penalty as a team can get in today's time" I am not the one that compared the OSU situation to the USC case and secondly the NCAA has not made a final ruling yet so we don't even know what the punishments will be. You can read my past posts if you like but I have always argued that OSU would not get hammered like some on this board and the media thought. Wow, you're right I said they'd get the death penalty :lol:. As close as a team can get to the death penalty is a far cry from the death penalty, especially when it is left vague. Give me a break Royal, that just sounds like some "Oh, everyone hates Ohio State, poor Buckeyes" crap. Anytime someone says a word about the Bucks on here you'd think someone had burned down the Horseshoe or something.
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