She's not going to win, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Are you speaking about the GOP nomination?

Are you speaking about the GOP nomination?

Presidency. But I really doubt she'll get the GOP nod, even though she's in the lead currently.

I thought Christianity was the official religion of the Roman Empire when it fell.

 

We really need PepRock, but my understanding is that the Empire was already in decline when Constantine I legalized and converted to Christianity.

Presidency. But I really doubt she'll get the GOP nod, even though she's in the lead currently.

 

I agree, despite her showing rather well in the last debate. Don't think she'll be around at the end.

I thought Christianity was the official religion of the Roman Empire when it fell.

 

No, Christ spent 30+ yrs living during Roman Rule and during that time their were as many religions as there were peoples. All of the vices that plague this country contributed to Rome's demise. Unfortunately, history looks as if it's going to be repeated.

We're clear on your low opinion of him.

 

We're not clear as to your feelings regarding his claim that I posted.

I just don't consider him to be a spiritual or sociological sage worthy of deep contemplation.

He said tonight that we don't need bible thumpers nor pot-smoking hippies running the country.

 

Sums up what most of us believe.

I have no doubt that many Americans share his sentiments.

 

If by Bible Thumpers he infers the superficial and pompous types like Fred Phelps, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and other megalomaniacs, I might agree as well.

 

If on the other hand he is referring to all genuine Bible believing Christians, I couldn’t disagree more. True Christians… the humble, God fearing, morally grounded salt of the earth believers and followers of Jesus Christ are precisely the kind of people we used to have in our government.

 

Bible Thumpers built this country. We could use more of them in D.C. instead of the morally bereft philanderers we have there now.

AMEN!!!^^^^

I just don't consider him to be a spiritual or sociological sage worthy of deep contemplation.

I have no doubt that many Americans share his sentiments.

 

If by Bible Thumpers he infers the superficial and pompous types like Fred Phelps, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and other megalomaniacs, I might agree as well.

 

If on the other hand he is referring to all genuine Bible believing Christians, I couldn’t disagree more. True Christians… the humble, God fearing, morally grounded salt of the earth believers and followers of Jesus Christ are precisely the kind of people we used to have in our government.

 

Bible Thumpers built this country. We could use more of them in D.C. instead of the morally bereft philanderers we have there now.

 

I believe most Americans would put "Bible thumpers" somewhere between the two definitions you list but closer to the first.

I believe most Americans would put "Bible thumpers" somewhere between the two definitions you list but closer to the first.

Sadly Clyde, I must agree. (Not sad to agree with you, but sad that what you say is indeed the case. I would be sad about it if I said it too.)

 

I have experienced a recent epiphany spiritually. I have been convicted about how far from God's holiness I am, and how deluded we all are in our current culture. God (if He is even acknowledged to exist) has been repackaged as a big cuddly cosmic teddy bear with nothing but love and acceptance for everyone and every belief and every practice. As long as someone is good and makes reasonable effort to be a decent person, they're in... whatever they call Him… whatever traits they attribute to Him… it's all good...

 

This unfortunately is a lie straight from hell. If this were the case, why did Jesus have to suffer and die? Why did He preach that we must believe He's who He said He is and follow His teaching? Why did He teach that He alone is "the Way and the Truth and the Life everlasting"? Why did He teach that "no one comes to the Father but through Him"?

 

Just as our parents may have asked, "So, if all your friends jump off the bridge, does that make it right for you to jump also?"

 

Just because 95% of the people may believe certain sins are no longer a big deal, doesn't mean God has changed His mind or character about sin. He is holy, we are not. We do not even comprehend holiness. We do not even accept that gossip is as evil as calculated murder in the light of infinite holiness. We cannot begin to approach Him without a mediator, and Jesus ruled every other option out except for Him alone. Any other teaching is a lie. Not because Fastbreak says it, but because Jesus and Paul said so. We are free to believe them or not, but we are not free to water down what they taught just to sing Kumbaya with those who deny who Jesus Christ Himself said He is and how we are to approach God through Him alone.

 

In this regard,all roads don't lead to God.

 

As for me and my house, I would far rather have the keys for establishing laws, interpreting laws and enforcing laws in the hands of men and women humbly submitted to the supreme Law Giver. Not potheads, self-obsessed entertainers, egomaniacal politicians or superficial self-engrossed religious leaders.

 

Feel free to point out my narrow and unreasonable viewpoint. I can take it… :lol:

Jesus even told his Discipes, (not the 12) that his teachings were hard, and they chose to leave him because of this. John 6.