You can't be serious about that.

 

I am completely serious. Here in Lexington there are many instigators bicycling around all over the place.

My point is you are making judgments about police in general from a 14 year old article about a Connecticut Police Department.

 

Officers who scored low enough 14 years ago are still employed today. And I will assume you purposely stayed below the ceiling score because you seem like an intelligent person.

Officers who scored low enough 14 years ago are still employed today. And I will assume you purposely stayed below the ceiling score because you seem like an intelligent person.

 

Like I said before, that's one departments policy from 14 years ago. Things have changed a bit.

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Like I said before, that's one departments policy from 14 rears ago. Things have changed a bit.

 

I am sure they have. Just recently in Dayton they lowered the required score to 58% in order for more potential officers to qualify.

I am sure they have. Just recently in Dayton they lowered the required score to 58% in order for more potential officers to qualify.

 

Okay. That's two departments out of thousands. And lowering the score really doesn't bother me. It doesnt take a genius to be a police officer. It takes a hard working, honest person to be a good police officer.

 

Becoming a police officer in most places is a long process. Entrance exams are typically fairly difficult, so lowering the minimum score a bit, if it means passing good candidates through, isn't always bad. Most (obviously not all) of the rotten candidates will be eliminated in the process. After the entrance test, a typical hiring process could include; physical test, background check, polygraph, one or more interviews, psychological evaluation, and a health exam. That's just to get into an academy.

I will admit that I do have a biased negative opinion towards the men and women in your profession. I can respect the stressful decision-making that can be involved when dealing with dangerous situations and controlling idiots, but for the most part I feel as though police create more trouble for people than they prevent.

 

I know that we rarely hear when police do good things, and that the media tends to aggrandize the bad, but articles like this also skew my disposition towards law enforcement:

 

http://nyletterpress.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/police-reject-candidate-for-being-too-intelligent/

 

Honestly if you have a skewed vision of police officers, then don't waste your time when you need help when somebody is breaking into your residence, when you have an accident, when your car is stolen, you have a missing child, or a thousand other bad things that can happen. The unfortunate officer who arrives to help you is in a no win situation. And it will just give you more fodder for badmouthing and generalizing a HUGE group of men and women who willing to sacrifice their very lives to save yours.......a simple thank you would do just fine.

Lowering the scores may be the only way to get officers to apply. I mean who wants to be in a profession which is so demeaned just for doing your job. If is folks like the ones generalizing and implying that all police officers are corrupt are the ones making it so hard to get good canidates to apply. I challenge any of the doubters to ride of few tours of duty and have to make a decision in a split second that is would take a lawyer about 2 years to make.....I am daggum proud to be an officer and DEFEND the rights of people who are only interested in demeaning my profession.

Today I was going home and I was thinking about setting the proper example to the public, just like suggested here. Well friends and neighbors, this is what happened.

 

I set my cruise control at 70, of course I verified this with my radar. Traffic was backing up behind me and a jolly soul from north of the border (a fine citizen of Ohio) passed me. Well having set such a good example, I thought it only right that I stop him and explain that I was setting a good example and he was not being a good citizen. He asked me with a fair amount of indignation the reason he was stopped. I advised him that he was exceeding the posted speed limt. With even more indignation he further advised me that in Ohio the Highway Patrol had enought sense to give a few miles an hour over the speed limit.

 

I advised him with just a fair amount of humor that he was no longer in Ohio and in Kentucky 70 means 70 not 78MPH, and if he had any questions about the Uniform Citation he should feel free to ask a Highway Patrolman in Ohio as it was obvious me to me that he just KNEW us kentucky boys did not know much about the law.

 

Being a good example makes a guy feel very warm all over.

You can give them tickets all you want they don't know how to drive.

Honestly if you have a skewed vision of police officers, then don't waste your time when you need help when somebody is breaking into your residence, when you have an accident, when your car is stolen, you have a missing child, or a thousand other bad things that can happen. The unfortunate officer who arrives to help you is in a no win situation. And it will just give you more fodder for badmouthing and generalizing a HUGE group of men and women who willing to sacrifice their very lives to save yours.......a simple thank you would do just fine.

 

I agree with what you are saying just playing Devil's advocate here... Couldn't you argue that they (Police Officers) singed up for this job and get paid to do these particular things. I don't get a thank you at work when I get someone health insurance that needs it or do my other duties at work.

I agree with what you are saying just playing Devil's advocate here... Couldn't you argue that they (Police Officers) singed up for this job and get paid to do these particular things. I don't get a thank you at work when I get someone health insurance that needs it or do my other duties at work.

 

You thank the military don't you? They signed up for what they do. Who do you think protects you and your things to the best of their ability right here in America?

 

The reason it's hard for people to grasp that is because after the police pull someone out of a burning car or save someone's life, they can go write average Joe a speeding ticket worth $150.

I agree with what you are saying just playing Devil's advocate here... Couldn't you argue that they (Police Officers) singed up for this job and get paid to do these particular things. I don't get a thank you at work when I get someone health insurance that needs it or do my other duties at work.

 

Good point. I know their jobs are important and I have several friends who are cops (some have better attitudes than others) but lets get over expecting a thank you. Do teachers, doctors, etc. expect "thank you" from every student or patient? "No".

You thank the military don't you? They signed up for what they do. Who do you think protects you and your things to the best of their ability right here in America?

 

The reason it's hard for people to grasp that is because after the police pull someone out of a burning car or save someone's life, they can go write average Joe a speeding ticket worth $150.

 

You could say the same about the military. They are great people and do wonderful things that I don't wish to do but at the same time you could say the same that they applied willingly to be in the military.

I have been an officer for 21+ years and I have been verbally berated, shot the bird and have been shown disrespect in far more ways than I can list here, but the biggest is people telling one side of the story which is what I have been reading on here. Never once have I arrested anyone for that sole reason. Rarely have I arrrested period in those situations. None of the officers talked about can defend themselves here:madman:.....but I will give you a chance.

 

If I get attitude, I give attitude. Speeding is stupid, period. If the speed limit is 65 go 65!! Basicly what is boils down to is you are gambling and get mad when you lose(getting pulled over) I have been called "sir" with the tone that would have been more fitting for "SOB", so just because you SAY you were polite does not mean you were polite. Stupid is as stupid does......and after working for many years (or even a double shift protecting citizens) you get kind of tired of stupid and dealing with it. I also get sick and tired of hearing one side of the story, which is basicly what is happening for the better part of this thread.

 

In 21+ years I have never taken anything that did not belong to me, I never knowingly voilated a person civil rights, although I have spent some time and money in federal court due to frivilous law suits(not just mine of other officers), but I have spent alot of time in doctors officers and in ERs due to injuries and I have had my share of time off due to injuries. I don't expect or want anything special becuase of all that, that stuff comes with the job and I knew when I swore an oath to defend the constitution of the Commonwealth. What I DEMAND is respect. You give it, you get it.

 

So that being said, anyone want to come down and spend some time riding along with me, send me a PM and I will haul you around and up and down some hollars and let you get a taste of what you are spewing!!

 

That's a problem. When you demand something you automatically put people on the defense. Maybe you should expect it and if you don't get it then go from there. Demanding only shows that you are trying to impose your power over someone. I've tried to talk to some of my friends who are cops and some get it and others don't. Just because you wear the badge doesn't mean that you get respect. Just like most other jobs, you have to earn respect and "demanding it" is not earning it. It's all about attitude and if you come across as demanding respect, then forget it, you will never get respect.

Good point. I know their jobs are important and I have several friends who are cops (some have better attitudes than others) but lets get over expecting a thank you. Do teachers, doctors, etc. expect "thank you" from every student or patient? "No".

 

I've seen plenty of people say "thank your teacher". I think ive even seen commercials on tv about it. Those jobs aren't viewed as negatively as law enforcement.

You could say the same about the military. They are great people and do wonderful things that I don't wish to do but at the same time you could say the same that they applied willingly to be in the military.

 

They knew what they got into but they are still protecting us, thus IMO they deserve a thanks. I doubt many of them expect it tho. Much like I doubt many police officers expect a thank you.