When did they change the HS rule back to requiring the actual appeal? A few years ago when I was a patched official, the call was automatic. As soon as the ball became dead, the ruling would be made. I have seen a few games this year where they actually made the P take the rubber, step off and throw to the base to make the appeal.

This is correct. All of HC's position players (including pitcher) would have had to leave fair territory, at which point any appeal would have been invalid. I wonder if HC's outfielders were their saving grace - they would have been the ones most likely to have been the last ones coming off the field to get in line to shake hands. I would assume that both the umps and Krump would have checked to verify that at least one HC player had remained in fair territory.

 

I am too lazy to look it up and don't have the time right now but an umpire friend of mine who studies the book a lot says that as long as the umpires did not leave the field that they could appeal. He said it did not matter if the players were off the field.

HC Asst coach Dan Barth was the one who mentioned it to Coach Holtz as the players were lining up to go through the line. Holtz then called over the one umpire who then got with the other and the right call was made at that point. The Cov Cath player (Freshman pinch runner I believe) clearly left early on the play. Coach Krumps did not complain.

 

If your info is correct, why would a Freshman PR be used in an important game like this?

This is correct. All of HC's position players (including pitcher) would have had to leave fair territory, at which point any appeal would have been invalid. I wonder if HC's outfielders were their saving grace - they would have been the ones most likely to have been the last ones coming off the field to get in line to shake hands. I would assume that both the umps and Krump would have checked to verify that at least one HC player had remained in fair territory.

 

As a spectator at this game the Left Fielder who had caught the fly ball for the second out of the inning was kneeling down in the outfield after his throw home didn't get the runner at home. He and the Center Fielder were both still in the field of play for the official ruling.

If your info is correct, why would a Freshman PR be used in an important game like this?

 

I think he was the last one available.

Is the Old Guy going to post stats? How long did Seversen pitch? Who came in after him?

Why wasn't Lankheit in the lineup? Sick again?

 

Has he been sick previously?

Is the Old Guy going to post stats? How long did Seversen pitch? Who came in after him?

 

I would give him till tonight. It was a late game and he is probably working today.

I would give him till tonight. It was a late game and he is probably working today.

 

OK. Thanks.

FED 8-2-5 says :

 

Appeals must be made... on the last play of the game, an appeal can be made until the umpires leave the field of play.

 

The question posed to me by an umpire was why were the umpires still on the field when the players were going through the post-game handshake line? He said many associations teach umpires to leave the field immediately. I can tell you this is how basketball officials are taught as well. Horn blows. Look at the scorekeeper to make sure he/she has no issues , put your head down, and leave.

Ritter did a nice job keeping CCH from good contact with his curveball. Severson's hook also caused some problems for Holy Cross.

 

Not a lot of hard-hit balls by either team.

 

I don't remember all of the ABs for HC in the last inning. I know they led off with a double. I think there were then two walks and then two hits to plate 3.

 

Game ended on what looked to be a hit-and-run but the batter swung through the pitch and Callery threw out the runner.

I like the future for the Schreiver kid. For a freshman he has good size and a smooth LH stroke. When his body matures he will be a force in the 9th.

When did they change the HS rule back to requiring the actual appeal? .

 

I checked into this as well and was told that the umpires are to wait until the coach appeals.

BTW what is the 9th region record for pinch-runners in one game? It was challenged last night.

Good answer which, of course, raises another question:

 

Are HS kids required to appeal in the same manner as MLB rules or can the Coach merely raise the issue with the umps?

 

If the former, this can get pretty tricky (e.g., kid takes the rubber, steps off and before throwing to 3rd to appeal, makes a fake throw to 1st to make sure that runner doesn't take off for 2nd and then throws to 3rd -- ump just looks at him because no appeal is made since the appeal must be the 1st act to take place after the ball is put back in play -- in this instance, when he faked the runner back to 1st, he lost his opportunity to appeal.)