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"Duh, Winning!" (and other possible slogans for Obama's 2012 campaign)

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While jobs were being added, jobs were also being lost, like woodsrider said, because of the housing market. Those jobs that were lost subtracted from those jobs that were created. 1.08 million jobs is not a lot but its still job creation. You have to consider all problems. You can't just look at one statistic and go "Welp! There it is. Only X many of jobs were created therefore he sucks." You have to look at reason behind it.

 

Which statistic should we view? Middle class wages? Deficit in relation to GDP? Unemployment rates?

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You know, I voted for Obama and I will do it again in 2012!!!

 

That is my slogan.

Which statistic should we view? Middle class wages? Deficit in relation to GDP? Unemployment rates?

 

All the problems you just listed are the ones that we face AFTER jobs go down the drain. Not necessarily the reason why jobs are not there.

 

I'm sure you blame our capitalistic system and The Bush Administration.

 

I myself would blame too much Gov't, greedy Wallstreet, Out of control spending, irresponsible spending, congress not regulating the housing market and of course many other issues.

All the problems you just listed are the ones that we face AFTER jobs go down the drain. Not necessarily the reason why jobs are not there.

 

I'm sure you blame our capitalistic system and The Bush Administration.

 

I myself would blame too much Gov't, greedy Wallstreet, Out of control spending, irresponsible spending, congress not regulating the housing market and of course many other issues.

 

In the same sentence you blame too much gov't and then say there wasn't enough govt to control Wallstreet or to regulate the housing market. Can you name examples of too much government? Would it be the military?

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I'll take the Bush recession over the Obama recovery any day.:p

 

Well done!

In the same sentence you blame too much gov't and then say there wasn't enough govt to control Wallstreet or to regulate the housing market. Can you name examples of too much government? Would it be the military?

 

Depart of Ed

Depart of Ag

Social Security

Medicare

IRS

Depart of HHS

 

Here's six and could name many more. The feds have but two jobs really. Protect us and infastructure. Other then that it's state business.

Depart of Ed

Depart of Ag

Social Security

Medicare

IRS

Depart of HHS

 

Here's six and could name many more. The feds have but two jobs really. Protect us and infastructure. Other then that it's state business.

 

"We the People in order to form a perfect union

establish justice

insure domestic tranquility

provide for the common defense

promote the general welfare

secure the blessings of liberty

 

Looks like it has 6 jobs to me. Social Security and Medicare are considered by a VAST MAJORITY of people to be two of the greatest programs this country has ever developed. They have been what have kept many of our seniors out of poverty. You also know that Social Security contributes nothing to the nations debt don't you?

In the same sentence you blame too much gov't and then say there wasn't enough govt to control Wallstreet or to regulate the housing market. Can you name examples of too much government? Would it be the military?

 

 

I think everyone knows what I meant ace...I'll assume and go on with my life hoping you do as well.

 

 

Social Security and Medicare are considered by a VAST MAJORITY of people to be two of the greatest programs this country has ever developed. They have been what have kept many of our seniors out of poverty. You also know that Social Security contributes nothing to the nations debt don't you?

 

Just because people like the programs does not mean they are being run right. Are you saying that the way SS and Medicare are run is doing well and on the road to success?

"We the People in order to form a perfect union

establish justice

insure domestic tranquility

provide for the common defense

promote the general welfare

secure the blessings of liberty

 

Looks like it has 6 jobs to me. Social Security and Medicare are considered by a VAST MAJORITY of people to be two of the greatest programs this country has ever developed. They have been what have kept many of our seniors out of poverty. You also know that Social Security contributes nothing to the nations debt don't you?

 

First Bolded-not true

 

Second bolded-You do know that it consumes massive amounts of cash flow, don't you? What do you think we pay our debts with?

First Bolded-not true

 

Second bolded-You do know that it consumes massive amounts of cash flow, don't you? What do you think we pay our debts with?

 

You really believe that the vast majority of people in this country don't think medicare and social security are good programs? Really?

 

I know we pay much of our debt with the SS trust fund, so actually it helps with deficits and does not contribute and is solvent under the current rules at least into the 40s, when I would then guess that many of the baby boomers will have petered out by then so it might not be nearly as bad as we think.

Similarly a March 2011 poll by the Pew Research Center found 65% of Americans oppose cuts in Social Security or Medicare to bring down the deficit. Independents, the key voting block in national elections, opposed such cuts 61% to 35%. The GOP doesn't get much help when the numbers are broken out by age: Pew found last fall that elderly Americans, who are more likely to vote than younger ones and are a key GOP voting block, oppose replacing Medicare with a voucher system, as proposed by Ryan, by 69% to 14%.

 

Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/04/05/why-mess-with-medicare/#ixzz1Irs3OQGQ

 

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/01/21/Poll-Medicare-SoSec-worth-higher-taxes/UPI-11481295600400/

WASHINGTON, Jan. 21 (UPI) -- Nearly two-thirds of Americans would rather pay higher Medicare and Social Security payroll taxes than have those benefits cut, a public opinion poll indicated.

 

If Americans had to choose from among cuts to Medicare, Social Security or the military, 55 percent said cut the military, The New York Times/CBS News poll released Friday found.

 

Republicans might want to talk about revamping Medicare and Social Security, but most voters don’t want to hear it.

 

More than three-in-four Americans reject the idea of cutting Social Security benefits, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll. The numbers are similar for cutting Medicare or K-12 education.

 

While polls continue to suggest Americans are more worried about the deficit and debt than they have been in years, those numbers present a problem for congressional Republicans and the party’s White House hopefuls who want to overhaul the popular retirement and health-care program for seniors.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/03/02/wsjnbc-poll-hands-off-medicare-social-security/

You really believe that the vast majority of people in this country don't think medicare and social security are good programs? Really?

I know we pay much of our debt with the SS trust fund, so actually it helps with deficits and does not contribute and is solvent under the current rules at least into the 40s, when I would then guess that many of the baby boomers will have petered out by then so it might not be nearly as bad as we think.

 

You're backtracking. You said greatest program ever developed. No way a vast majority thinks that. I really do doubt if a vast majority think they're even a good program. Not under current conditions.

 

It will be gone well before the 40's because no one has the courage to do anything about it.

You're backtracking. You said greatest program ever developed. No way a vast majority thinks that. I really do doubt if a vast majority think they're even a good program. Not under current conditions.

 

It will be gone well before the 40's because no one has the courage to do anything about it.

 

Did you look at the links and the polls? People would rather pay higher taxes than to do away with either social security or medicare. I am not backtracking, you bolded Vast Majority and I showed you polls, from conservative sites mind you, that a vast majority want to keep the programs.

 

See if this link helps:

 

http://federal-government-ratings.findthebest.com/

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