Some has, though I would put the "GWB is responsible for 9/11" to be close to some of the "birthers" or that "Obama is a closet muslim."

Don't forget "he stole the election". :lol:

 

I agree with bugatti, I think Bush was hammered from every single angle on a lot more personal level than Obama.

Some has, though I would put the "GWB is responsible for 9/11" to be close to some of the "birthers" or that "Obama is a closet muslim."

No argument there, but I would say the percentage of people that believe the former is far outweighted by the latter two ...

Don't forget "he stole the election".

I don't believe the election was "stolen" as much that, even today, I think the true outcome in Florida is in dispute.

 

Actually, the Supreme Court deserves just as much criticism as anyone for how the Florida situation ended.

Some has, though I would put the "GWB is responsible for 9/11" to be close to some of the "birthers" or that "Obama is a closet muslim."

There are so many others, too ... the way he greets other heads of state, the so-called "apologizing for America" tour, the personal beliefs that some of the talking heads attribute to him, etc.

I don't believe the election was "stolen" as much that, even today, I think the true outcome in Florida is in dispute.

 

Actually, the Supreme Court deserves just as much criticism as anyone for how the Florida situation ended.

What's to dispute, every time they counted it was proven Bush won.

Just as some in the pro-Obama camp which support him strictly because of race. I am not a Tea Party guy, but the generalizations which have gone along with the movement are unfair, imo.

This definitely happens too. I've had people tell me as much. I will say I'd rather someone tell me this outright then hide behind something else.

There are so many others, too ... the way he greets other heads of state, the so-called "apologizing for America" tour, the personal beliefs that some of the talking heads attribute to him, etc.

Of course all that had to do with his skin color, huh?

What's to dispute, every time they counted it was proven Bush won.

Wasn't the last count stopped before it could be concluded?

 

And every account I've read said the recount result often depended on what standards were used for the recount.

 

I don't dispute that Bush actually won Florida, but I do feel that it wasn't clear-cut ...

Of course all that had to do with his skin color, huh?

Don't put words in my mouth ...

Don't put words in my mouth ...

What's the thread about again? :sssh:

Don't forget "he stole the election". :lol:

 

I agree with bugatti, I think Bush was hammered from every single angle on a lot more personal level than Obama.

 

More personal? Remind me, please.

Really? Maybe I missed something, but Bush Jr. was hammered from every single angle on a lot more personal level than Obama. There was an extremely vocal opposition to the previous administration, just not as organized as the Tea Party. I think many are afraid to attack the President on a personal level because of the fear of being deemed racist. The Tea Party was an attempt to hit upon the issues and not the Presidency (whether you agree with their positions or not). The racist fear mongering has followed.

 

Yes, Bush was heavily vilified. My point was that his critics from the right ardently defended him, were silent, or only indicated token distaste with some of his policies, whereas they are now a mass, outspoken, and angry movement dedicated to "taking their country back," whatever that means, despite only mild shifts in some policies that were well broadcast during the election. I simply feel it's a fair question to ask why that is without it being dismissed out of hand. My own personal assessment is that it's a combination of hardened partisanship and a terrible economy. But, I also feel that his race makes it easier to portray him as an agent of subversion with a more nefarious agenda than he's willing to admit rather than the mildly liberal president he's been. And I think that's a nontrivial portion of his critics, especially in the magnitude of their aversion. For instance, there was a thread posted in this forum a month or so back linking to a Forbes piece, a pretty mainstream publication, arguing that Obama was a secret anti-colonialist who hated the United States because the title of his memoir was Dreams of My Father, his father was Kenyan, ipso facto, Obama hates America.

 

As to the second part of your post, are saying that the Tea Party has formed out of fear of being labeled racists? I don't understand.

It's amazing what those forwarded emails can teach you, isn't it?

 

As to those fancy east coast elitist schools, I guess George W. Bush falls in that category?

 

That's the kind of thing that happens when one paints with too broad a brush. Black, white, R, D, TP.

More personal? Remind me, please.

He was called an alcoholic, stupid, compared to a monkey, called a liar, booed during a 2004 State of the Union Address, Democrats howled, hissed and shouted "No!" during a 2005 State of the Union Address when Bush pushed for Social Security reform, he was called a murderer, was compared to Hitler and called a Nazi, was cussed out in a restaurant, was heckled many, many times while giving speeches, he was mocked at Obama's Inauguration, he was called a draft dodger and on and on and on. I'm sure if you do some googling, you'll find plenty.

^ Heck, several of those things have happened to me.