When you say "wrong" there are two definitions. Legally? Wrong.

Morally? 100% correct.

 

Morally would have been to make sure security would have escorted the kid out. Morally is not causing a physical altercation.

Sorry about that.

 

Here's the Canes' fans fighting.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCnT25seg5k&feature=player_embedded

 

I can't tell who is fighting who, with these group of idiots...

Morally would have been to make sure security would have escorted the kid out. Morally is not causing a physical altercation.

 

I do not live in the same world you do apparently.

 

If my daughter (assumption) is being talked to by a gesturing punk I'm stepping in. I'm not waiting for security which obviously wasn't very close.

 

This clown was making a big scene gesturing wildly so everyone would notice. Any beatdown I or any other "old" guy puts on him is well earned.

I do not live in the same world you do apparently.

 

If my daughter (assumption) is being talked to by a gesturing punk I'm stepping in. I'm not waiting for security which obviously wasn't very close.

 

This clown was making a big scene gesturing wildly so everyone would notice. Any beatdown I or any other "old" guy puts on him is well earned.

 

There is a difference between stepping in and causing a physical altercation. It's not like the guy was even in the woman's face or anything. One thing to defend someone because they are being physically attacked. Another to start the physical altercation.

 

The world you live in is a fantasy world then Clyde and you know it. Doesn't matter what I say to your daughter, you can't touch me, nor should you. If you do, you would be paying me a large sum of money if I chose to pursue it.

There is a difference between stepping in and causing a physical altercation. It's not like the guy was even in the woman's face or anything. One thing to defend someone because they are being physically attacked. Another to start the physical altercation.

 

The world you live in is a fantasy world then Clyde and you know it. Doesn't matter what I say to your daughter, you can't touch me, nor should you. If you do, you would be paying me a large sum of money if I chose to pursue it.

 

If you truly believe that I'm not going to "touch" someone who is in my daughter's face then a)you're naive and b)you're not a father yet.

 

The whole "I'll own you" threat is lame.

 

Doesn't matter what I say to your daughter, you can't touch me, nor should you. If you do, you would be paying me a large sum of money if I chose to pursue it.

 

At the risk of sounding "old" this response is a perfect example of how the generations look at the world differently. The 20s think that just because the law is on their side that they have no fear of repercussions against them regardless of how vile their words may be. Those of us who grew up in a different time know better.

If you truly believe that I'm not going to "touch" someone who is in my daughter's face then a)you're naive and b)you're not a father yet.

 

The whole "I'll own you" threat is lame.

 

I hardly consider that "in someone's face". If anything the women was invading his "space" more than the young man. Call me naive all you want, at the end of the day, the older gentleman had no right to touch him, nor should he have. We are suppose to preach not to resolve things with violence to young kids. Does the older man's actions not completely contradict this?

 

Lastly if he was so worried about his daughter, he should have immediately pulled her behind him and been the one jawwing with the kid.

 

The kid definitely looks like a jerk, and the older guy looks like a hero, but at the end of the day the kid could get a lot of money from this if he wanted.

I do not live in the same world you do apparently.

 

If my daughter (assumption) is being talked to by a gesturing punk I'm stepping in. I'm not waiting for security which obviously wasn't very close.

 

This clown was making a big scene gesturing wildly so everyone would notice. Any beatdown I or any other "old" guy puts on him is well earned.

 

I'm with Clyde

I hardly consider that "in someone's face". If anything the women was invading his "space" more than the young man. Call me naive all you want, at the end of the day, the older gentleman had no right to touch him, nor should he have. We are suppose to preach not to resolve things with violence to young kids. Does the older man's actions not completely contradict this?

 

Lastly if he was so worried about his daughter, he should have immediately pulled her behind him and been the one jawwing with the kid.

 

The kid definitely looks like a jerk, and the older guy looks like a hero, but at the end of the day the kid could get a lot of money from this if he wanted.

 

Whatever his last words to her is what upset the dad.

 

Your viewpoint is perfect....upto a point. Violence should be the last resort. However, there comes a time when it is the answer.

 

I do applaud your pacifist views. I just don't agree.

I hardly consider that "in someone's face". If anything the women was invading his "space" more than the young man. Call me naive all you want, at the end of the day, the older gentleman had no right to touch him, nor should he have. We are suppose to preach not to resolve things with violence to young kids. Does the older man's actions not completely contradict this?

 

Lastly if he was so worried about his daughter, he should have immediately pulled her behind him and been the one jawwing with the kid.

 

The kid definitely looks like a jerk, and the older guy looks like a hero, but at the end of the day the kid could get a lot of money from this if he wanted.

 

Scenario: Pickup basketball game (I know you're a former baller). Dude throws an elbow at you and nails you in the face. No referees to go to. No police to call. No technical foul or ejections to use.

 

You do what?

Scenario: Pickup basketball game (I know you're a former baller). Dude throws an elbow at you and nails you in the face. No referees to go to. No police to call. No technical foul or ejections to use.

 

You do what?

 

Horrible example when comparing to this situation.

Scenario: Pickup basketball game (I know you're a former baller). Dude throws an elbow at you and nails you in the face. No referees to go to. No police to call. No technical foul or ejections to use.

 

You do what?

 

He'll get a shot to the groin later probably lol. But, there is a difference in your scenario. That is physical action against physcial action. In that video, the older man started and caused the physical action. I understand where you are going with it, and I am in favor of the old man. But in society today, you just can't do that kind of stuff whether its morally right, like you say, or not.

 

I'm just saying, that definitely wasn't the best way for him to handle it. Security would have easily escorted this guy out as long as the other fans back the woman and older man. For him to go and grab him is just uncalled

I need to just man up and go to law school lol.

He'll get a shot to the groin later probably lol. But, there is a difference in your scenario. That is physical action against physcial action. In that video, the older man started and caused the physical action. I understand where you are going with it, and I am in favor of the old man. But in society today, you just can't do that kind of stuff whether its morally right, like you say, or not.

 

I'm just saying, that definitely wasn't the best way for him to handle it. Security would have easily escorted this guy out as long as the other fans back the woman and older man. For him to go and grab him is just uncalled

 

Just by watching the video the young fella is running that jaw and making gestures toward his jaw. Probably saying, "What ya gonna do old man hit me?" Then he probably said something like, "Sit your tail on down before your fat ax has a heart attack. My guess is I put it very very mildly. Old guy defended his daughter or whatevers honor. My opinion young boy is a punk & a coward for even talking to elderly folks like that.

There is a difference between stepping in and causing a physical altercation. It's not like the guy was even in the woman's face or anything. One thing to defend someone because they are being physically attacked. Another to start the physical altercation.

 

The world you live in is a fantasy world then Clyde and you know it. Doesn't matter what I say to your daughter, you can't touch me, nor should you. If you do, you would be paying me a large sum of money if I chose to pursue it.

 

Well said. :thumb: