Those that have seen Him and have been transformed by His Love' date=' Mercy, and Grace have the responsibility (although we all fall way short) to be a "light among men". We don't have to go out and save the world, God just wants us to let Him use us in our lives to make a difference in other's. When Christ is with me in Spirit, His love touches others and so on an so on. With our God, anything is possible, we as christians just don't allow Him to use us the way He wants us to be used mosty b/c of fears of mockery.[/quote']

 

There is a great faith and bible based book on parenting called Scheperding a Child's Heart. It is a must have for everyone with or thinking about rearing children. Raising children is taken too lightly or with indifference unfortunately in our society. This book helps reinforce what God had intended our roles and responsiblities to be based on the very Word of God with scripture citiings.

Whackem, you know AD and BC - those are only used as numbering devices for calendars because the church put them there? By that logic, could I not claim that this is year 29 ME because I'm 29 years old? And to top it off, most educational scholarship now recognizes that Jesus of Nazareth was likely born between 6 and 4 BC, which totally skews the numbers.

 

Do not allow the educational elitists to argue and drive you from the real debate of a higher moral authorithy over a few years difference.

It the 1st the parents responsibility to teach morals helped by the church they attend.

As far as those who do not attend church, there was time that many of those who were unchurched still followed higher moral authorithy, because they knew it was expected of them by society as a whole. Now some think they can make up their own rules, as the expectations of morals has been lowered.

As a former teacher who has heard conversations that you would not heard in the boys locker room 30-40 years ago, I would disagree with you. While we will never have a perfect world, it has to be better than what we have now.

 

How in the world do "blue" conversations relate to one's ability to regurgitate facts?

No different? How about this story from when I was subbing last year in consumer science, used to be home ec. The teacher was still in the class as she was about to leave for a conference. Since the class was studying sex ed, one girl asked if a female could pregnant with twins by two different men. Now I tell you that was never even a conversation at the frat house 40 years ago. While it is a legitimate question, it does show where the minds of students have headed in recent years.

reas of life and also may give them the idea a better life is ahead with hard work in and out of school. I know will will not be even be close to perfect, but it has to better than what we have now.

 

Again, this has ZERO to do with performance in school.

It's not religion' date=' it's called faith in Jesus Christ. You know , the One that time is represented by.....A.D. B.C.[/quote']

 

I was not replying to your post.

Again, this has ZERO to do with performance in school.

 

You're sadly mistaken if you don't think that God has zero to do with school. God has everything to do with everything. He sustains, provides, and nourishes according to His plan. We as people live out the consequences of our faith or lack thereof in His Son Jesus Christ wether it be manifested in our personal lives or in a public forum like school performance. To me, they are directly related.

You're sadly mistaken if you don't think that God has zero to do with school. God has everything to do with everything. He sustains' date=' provides, and nourishes according to His plan. We as people live out the consequences of our faith or lack thereof in His Son Jesus Christ wether it be manifested in our personal lives or in a public forum like school performance. To me, they are directly related.[/quote']

 

You've totally hijacked a thread with unrelated and meandering talk that has ZERO to do with the discussion.

 

The performance or lack thereof of students is NOT directly tied to their views on Jesus Christ. Your rants actually do a disservice as it gives people the chance to say "see, that's why I don't believe in organized religion. No matter what the subject the answer will ultimately fall back to lack of morals and lack of church-goin'."

 

You're obviously free to state your beliefs. I'd ask on behalf of many on BGP that you do it in an intelligent and germane manner.

You've totally hijacked a thread with unrelated and meandering talk that has ZERO to do with the discussion.

 

The performance or lack thereof of students is NOT directly tied to their views on Jesus Christ. Your rants actually do a disservice as it gives people the chance to say "see, that's why I don't believe in organized religion. No matter what the subject the answer will ultimately fall back to lack of morals and lack of church-goin'."

 

You're obviously free to state your beliefs. I'd ask on behalf of many on BGP that you do it in an intelligent and germane manner.

 

 

Sorry if I offended you.

Sorry if I offended you.

 

While I'm not sure if that was sincere let me be clear that in no way was I offended.

While I'm not sure if that was sincere let me be clear that in no way was I offended.

 

Great, we can agree to disagree.

What I am trying to get acrosss is that many students have poor attitudes. Their minds are in the gutter or they think they can do whatever they wish and flount authorithy with no punishment.

This is why many students do not do well in school. You may not wish to believe it, but it is true. Teaching of moral lessons by parents and/or the church one attenends would correct this problem.

To not believe this is a sign of liberal philosophy that has gotten us into this position.

It also shows that money is not the answer or trendy things like, what I refer to as the phony self esteem. That is feel good about yourself, even if you have not accomplished anything. Just feel good because you tried. Real self esteem is accomphishing, achieving a goal.

Great' date=' we can agree to disagree.[/quote']

 

It happens quite often.

What I am trying to get acrosss is that many students have poor attitudes. Their minds are in the gutter or they think they can do whatever they wish and flount authorithy with no punishment.

This is why many students do not do well in school. You may not wish to believe it, but it is true. Teaching of moral lessons by parents and/or the church one attenends would correct this problem.

To not believe this is a sign of liberal philosophy that has gotten us into this position.

It also shows that money is not the answer or trendy things like, what I refer to as the phony self esteem. That is feel good about yourself, even if you have not accomplished anything. Just feel good because you tried. Real self esteem is accomphishing, achieving a goal.

 

I agree with much of what you say (except for the part of it being a "liberal" attitude). I know that my school has made dramatic changes in the last three years, due to an overhaul of expectations for student behavior. The climate of our school is drastically different than it was just a few years. We have high exceptations for behavior and apply it to all students, regardless of special circumstances (poverty, poor home environment, etc). As a result of this for just two years, we've seen all categories of scores increase, for us the most important being ACT scores, College Readiness Standards, and Successful Transition to Adult Life scores (based on college, military or career). NOW we can focus on making some specific changes instructionally, designed at increasing the rigor of what we teach.

 

However, I am a big proponent of reducing the number of students in classrooms. Based on my experience, lower class size results in more teacher-student interaction. Reducing class sizes would mean additional money needed to hiring additional staff and possibly the need for more space.

George Will's column in Sunday's Ky. Enquirer (8-29-10) he mentioned a book written by a Paul E. Barton, America's Smallest School:The Family. Barton believes that the following 5 reasons are responsible for 90% of the successes and failures in school.

 

1) The number of days absent from school.

 

2) The numbers of hours a student spent watching TV

 

3) The numbers of pages read for homework.

 

4) The quantity and quality of reading material in the students' home.

 

5) The most important one, the presence of 2 parents in the home.

 

I believe these reasons are the most important aspects to success in school, followed up by teachers who work hard to deliver the material in their respected fields. School is hard work and all the so-called innovations will not replace the 5 reasons for success by Barton.

 

I'd add one additional factor to the "obvious"--Teacher's Unions!!

I'd add one additional factor to the "obvious"--Teacher's Unions!!

 

Really?? You think the KEA hurts kids' education? I struggle with that assumption.

 

KEA advocates for more money for schools and higher pay for teachers.

 

KEA I would think, but I am not completely sure would be against charter schools, but in Kentucky, as rural as we are they are not going to be too prevalent. Why would students in EKY or even in the golden triangle go to a school that has no Athletic/Academic tradition. The three private schools in Franklin Co. do not have enough students to even have a high school. One of them has 9 eighth graders and another has 22. I am unsure about the third but I would assume the numbers are about the same. Many of the students in poverty in this community would continue to go to the traditional high schools where they could be a part of the school community and compete on the teams they have. A select few of wealthy kids might opt to go to one of the other schools, but how does that improve the schools overall?

 

So KEA's opposition to Charter Schools is really a no brainer in Kentucky.

 

KEA is not completely against merit pay for teachers if there can be a system developed that is not arbitrary and capricious. Test scores however cannot be the measuring stick since kids enter the classroom at different places academically.

 

I think KEA really helps the kids in this state.