August 6, 201016 yr Author Little things like the fact that a home-run hitter went something like a couple years without driving in a run via sac fly. That was one of the most exasperating things about him, and why I'm not sad he's gone. Other than a Pujols which players do not have areas of weakness? You guys are nitpicking. The name of the game is to produce runs and he did it in spades year after year. As I said previously I'll always content that its a style issue with Dunn.
August 6, 201016 yr You sure about that? I'm remembering that differently. Positive. Because it was the 7th inning when the NL took the lead. Rolen got it all started with a single, then went 1st to third on the base hit by Marlon Byrd I believe it was.
August 6, 201016 yr How many people have you talked to "in the clubhouse?" Regardless, there's a difference in not being a leader and being a problem. More than enough.
August 6, 201016 yr Author I agree, that was another thing I thought about after I posted. It was baffling with his power and a runner at 3rd, he didn't get more sac flys. . How often in a season do you suppose he failed to produce a SF? Give me an annual estimate.
August 6, 201016 yr Other than a Pujols which players do not have areas of weakness? You guys are nitpicking. The name of the game is to produce runs and he did it in spades year after year. As I said previously I'll always content that its a style issue with Dunn. Joey Votto Vlad A-Rod David Wright Hanley Ramierz CarGo Longoria Youk Miggy Mauer Morneau Hamilton
August 6, 201016 yr How often in a season do you suppose he failed to produce a SF? Give me an annual estimate. link This article is from July 2007. Eleven times in history has a player hit three sacrifice flies in one game, including Chad Kreuter, and the last being Edgar Martinez in 2002. Then there's Adam Dunn, who has 15 sacrifice flies in his career, two more than Lee has this year. In 2004-05, Dunn went 1,085 plate appearances without a sacrifice fly. He had 65 chances -- runner at third base, less than two outs -- before he finally broke his streak with a fly ball to left field. The crowd at Great American Ballpark cheered him. Dunn raised his arms in triumph. I find 65 chances without delivering a sac fly to be incomprehensible. Especially for a power hitter.
August 6, 201016 yr How often in a season do you suppose he failed to produce a SF? Give me an annual estimate. I know a while back I looked up the league leaders each year in sac flys and I believe it's usually around 10-15 or something. I believe the record for most in a year is a little over 20. So the number even for the best in the league isn't going to be that high. So just a wild guess, I would think it's fair to say that Dunn left around 20 RBI's on the table by not getting that run in from 3rd. Over the course of a year, 20 obviously isn't a lot. But we all know how one run here, one run there can win and lose you games. Nevermind, I just saw that article, 65, WOW! Even if you drive in just 20 percent of those, that's around 13. Unbelievable.
August 6, 201016 yr link This article is from July 2007. Ouch....0-65. Sounds like a solid run producer to me...:lol:
August 6, 201016 yr Other than a Pujols which players do not have areas of weakness? You guys are nitpicking. The name of the game is to produce runs and he did it in spades year after year. As I said previously I'll always content that its a style issue with Dunn. A power hitter who strikes out a lot is a weakness I can live with. It comes with the territory. A power hitter who can't drive in a run with a sac fly isn't a weakness, it's a fatal flaw.
August 6, 201016 yr Ouch....0-65. Sounds like a solid run producer to me...:lol: Exactly. That's why I never was impressed with the 40 HR/100 RBI line. Those RBIs should've been around 120-130.
August 6, 201016 yr Author Let me show the problem with those that hang their hat on the SF issue with Dunn. Ryan Howard had 42 PAs with a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs. He ended up with 28 ABs and had 6 SF. Dunn had 31 PA (less talent in front = less chances) and ended up with 20 BBs (less talent behind him makes it easier to pitch around him) and had 3 SFs. So Howard produced a SF 21% of the time and Dunn produced a SF 16% of the time. The SF issue is a poor crutch to lean on to criticize Dunn.
August 6, 201016 yr Let me show the problem with those that hang their hat on the SF issue with Dunn. Ryan Howard had 42 PAs with a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs. He ended up with 28 ABs and had 6 SF. Dunn had 31 PA (less talent in front = less chances) and ended up with 20 BBs (less talent behind him makes it easier to pitch around him) and had 3 SFs. So Howard produced a SF 21% of the time and Dunn produced a SF 16% of the time. The SF issue is a poor crutch to lean on to criticize Dunn. So let's just ignore that he went 0-65 on SF opportunties prior to that?
August 6, 201016 yr Author link This article is from July 2007. I find 65 chances without delivering a sac fly to be incomprehensible. Especially for a power hitter. To be completely fair lets change the 65 to 47 since he was walked 18 times. Granted, its still hard to believe that there were no SFs in 47 attempts in two years.
August 6, 201016 yr Author So let's just ignore that he went 0-65 on SF opportunties prior to that? The generally accepted stat is the for every 10 runs a player produces a team gains one W over a season. Lets say he went 10/47 in true SF situations. We'd all be happy with that, right? One incremental win for the team.
August 6, 201016 yr The generally accepted stat is the for every 10 runs a player produces a team gains one W over a season. Lets say he went 10/47 in true SF situations. We'd all be happy with that, right? One incremental win for the team. Where do you come up with that number?
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