April 28, 201016 yr How could you not vote for him first ballot? He'll retire within 5 years so what other players at that time will knock him out? I'd say not many. Chipper has been a great 3B over his career. No steroid use, excellent offense for his position and to be able to do it consistently at that. Has won MVP, World Series, batting title, plus other awards. One of the best switch hitters to ever play the game. Really good player, just not an all time great, which is my standard for being on the first ballot which should be reserved for a select few. When I think of Chipper and his career, I think of an above average player that is very seldom discussed as one of the top 5 players in the game each season. I just do not see him as any type of a transcendent type talent.
April 28, 201016 yr Really good player, just not an all time great, which is my standard for being on the first ballot which should be reserved for a select few. When I think of Chipper and his career, I think of an above average player that is very seldom discussed as one of the top 5 players in the game each season. I just do not see him as any type of a transcendent type talent. Just an above average player?:confused: If Chipper reaches 3k hits will that change your mind of him?
April 28, 201016 yr Just an above average player?:confused: If Chipper reaches 3k hits will that change your mind of him? Chipper is in that graceful fade part of his career. If he can remain as productive as he has the last few years, it will take him at least 4 and probably 5 years to get to 3,000 hits. That puts him at age 43. What do you think the chances are of 3,000?
April 28, 201016 yr Chipper is in that graceful fade part of his career. If he can remain as productive as he has the last few years, it will take him at least 4 and probably 5 years to get to 3,000 hits. That puts him at age 43. What do you think the chances are of 3,000? Given his fragility, slim to none. But I think he's HOF material, just not a first ballot guy.
April 28, 201016 yr Given his fragility, slim to none. But I think he's HOF material, just not a first ballot guy. I don't know that I would use "fragile" to describe Chipper. He has had his fair share of knicks and bruises, but he played in over 140 games last year at 37 years old. With that said, I don't see him playing for more than 2 seasons (after this one).
April 28, 201016 yr Chipper Jones is the best 3rd baseman of my generation. I'm interested: Who does BGP consider to be the best 3rd baseman of all-time?
April 29, 201016 yr Author Chipper Jones is the best 3rd baseman of my generation. I'm interested: Who does BGP consider to be the best 3rd baseman of all-time? I'll make a thread, good subject.
April 29, 201016 yr Just an above average player?:confused: If Chipper reaches 3k hits will that change your mind of him? No, it has nothing to do with numbers. When you have to try and make a case for a guy based upon numbers, they are not first ballot worthy, imo. I have no idea how many saves Mo Rivera has or needs to be the all time leader, and it does not matter. He is a first ballot guy. Chipper has been one of the better players in MLB during his tenure, but not normally at the upper echilan of players during his tenure. Sound better?
April 29, 201016 yr No, it has nothing to do with numbers. When you have to try and make a case for a guy based upon numbers, they are not first ballot worthy, imo. I have no idea how many saves Mo Rivera has or needs to be the all time leader, and it does not matter. He is a first ballot guy. Chipper has been one of the better players in MLB during his tenure, but not normally at the upper echilan of players during his tenure. Sound better? Doesn't sound better to me because most of the guys in front of him have benefited from PED's...
April 29, 201016 yr Doesn't sound better to me because most of the guys in front of him have benefited from PED's... That is a fair point, but I have no idea who did or did not use PEDs the last 20+ years, Chipper included. I do not believe he did, but I cannot say with certainty simply because he was never implicated.
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