Did Ms. Badu face any reprocussions for her actions. If not I think it is a double standard. I'm pretty sure that if I was to walk around downtown Dallas with my junk hanging out, I would likely be arrested.

 

I believe the MTV article I read said she and the film crew did it in one take then got the hell out of there so as to dodge the cops.

My thoughts are that Erykah Badu is and has always been pretty darned hot to go along with her great talent. This video does nothing to change my mind.

 

:lol:

 

I'm in total agreement with that part!

 

Couldnt disagree more, not sure if a 12 pack of Bud Light could even change my mind either.

What RM posted of course. That's where I get all my info!

 

Well then you are indeed well-informed! :thumb:

I believe the MTV article I read said she and the film crew did it in one take then got the hell out of there so as to dodge the cops.

 

It's a shame that an artist who was only expressing herself for the greater good of mankind by propagating the worthwhile message of individuality had to concern herself with such trivialities and bothersome nuisances as public indecency laws. Idiotic, puritanical society we live in . . . .

Wow. Because the rest of society doesn't share the views of the world according to Jim Schue, we all have problems and "hang-ups"? Somebody sure thinks a lot of himself.

 

I won't argue that I have a massive ego that well outsizes my giant cabeza. But if everyone conformed to my way of thinking, this world would be a very scary place, and a lot less populated.

 

I've never taught my kids that the body should be feared or covered "in shame." Frankly, I don't know any people that have taught their kids such things. I'm sure such people exist, they just don't happen to be the crowd with whom my wife and I socialize. We have taught our kids to respect their bodies, appreciate the beauty and intricasies of them; that sex is not dirty, but is a special act reserved for marraige; and that a little humility in covering the body is appropriate.

 

Actually, you did, but you probably didn't realize it, simply because that's the way society is. I don't necessarily fault you in particular for that. Just society.

 

My 16-year old doesn't go out with half her tata's sticking out above her shirt. She's got as slinky a bathing suit as most of her friends and when she's at the pool that's fine and appropriate. When she goes to school, she's not going to look like some street tramp seeking to earn a quick $10. If you find this ridiculously conservative, so be it. I can certainly live with leading my life different than you so choose.

 

Way to stretch things to the extreme.

 

And if you feel it would be a great idea to have your daughter (no clue if you actually have one - I'll assume not) prance around outside naked at will, or see 100 naked guys the next time you and her go to the mall together, then that's wonderful. I hope I don't have to live in your world, but if it works for you, great.

 

Never said I necessarily wanted to see things go to that extreme.

 

And you have absolutely no empirical data to back your statement that the world would be a much safer place if everyone walked around bucknaked. Just as strong a theoretical case could be made that it would cause a marked increase in sex-related crimes.

 

Like anybody else does have such data.

 

However, I still think it's a fair comparison to my example of kids who come from dry counties who don't know how to cope when presented with the "demon brew" for the first time without having to worry about their parents condemning them to hell.

 

To use my own self as an example, the fact that my family didn't mystify alcohol and its effects led me to be able to learn my limitations at an early age, and how to act reasonably while under said influence.

 

This discussion has, for the most part, centered on the appropriateness of public nudity. I am clearly someone not in favor of it. (Doesn't mean I couldn't list off the names of 50 actresses I wouldn't horribly object to seeing nude. ) The biggest part of my objection, however, is where she choose to do this. Dealey Plaza is a very special place and has a lot of history and emotions attached to it. I see it as very disrepsectful to the memory of a fallen President.

 

To borrow an argument I've used in the college basketball forum: It's just a place. It's not special or sacred because of the place itself, but because of the people involved with its history.

 

 

I will assume, for the point of discussion, that Jim Schue disagrees with me. We're pretty much at opposite ends of the conservative-liberal spectrum, I think. If so (or for anyone else, for that matter), I have a question for you:

 

Let's say one of the premier "artists" out there today (you pick the name - no doubt I will not have heard of them ) decides to make a video in a cemetery. Just happens to be a cemetery where some of your relatives are buried. The deep message of the song is something along the lines of burying the painful memories of your past or some other drivel. To help illustrate the point, the "artist" pees on some graves. Unfortunately, your parents' graves get peed on. OK or no?

 

If you're one of the conservatives who consider anyone to the left of Mussolini to be a commie liberal, then yes, we're from different ends of the spectrum. I carry a number of liberal views that would be reprehensible to conservatives, and at the same time I carry a number of conservative views that libbies would find equally reprehensible. Just look up my past comments about the G-Bomb if you don't believe me.

 

And again, it's just a place. I can't monitor a cemetery 24-7 to make sure nothing bad ever happens to my parents' graves. And even if someone does do something such as urinate upon it, while I might be initially put off by it, at the end of the day it's still just a place, and their actions does nothing to diminish the fond memories I would have of my parents.

Couldnt disagree more, not sure if a 12 pack of Bud Light could even change my mind either.

 

Yeah, she's pretty ugly alright.

It's a shame that an artist who was only expressing herself for the greater good of mankind by propagating the worthwhile message of individuality had to concern herself with such trivialities and bothersome nuisances as public indecency laws. Idiotic, puritanical society we live in . . . .

 

How is that any different from, say, Monty Python's "Life Of Brian" being banned by the Catholic Church, or "The Grapes Of Wrath" being banned in the US? Sometimes the envelope has to be pushed to get people out of their comfort zones and make them think.

I find this picture of her to be absolutely gorgeous.

 

I find this picture of her to be absolutely gorgeous.

 

 

She was killin' on her appearance on Dave Chappelle's show as well. :banana:

I've heard of Erykah Badu, but prior to today I could not have told you any song that she sings. I just finished watching this video, which I found on http://www.erykahbadu.com which I assume is her official website.

 

I do find it odd that the nudity in the video is censored, which to me seems like a form of protection whether it towards herself or those that stumble upon it on the web. However, those who happened to be in Dealey plaza that day were not given the same consideration.

I believe the MTV article I read said she and the film crew did it in one take then got the hell out of there so as to dodge the cops.

 

Given that the "crime" was videotaped, if so inclined wouldn't the cops be able to pursue charges anyhow. It's not like you have to be caught in the act to be charged with an offense.

Yeah, she's pretty ugly alright.

 

Maybe if she hadn't stripped in the video I could possibly agree with you, but unfortunately for her and for me she did.

And again, it's just a place. I can't monitor a cemetery 24-7 to make sure nothing bad ever happens to my parents' graves. And even if someone does do something such as urinate upon it, while I might be initially put off by it, at the end of the day it's still just a place, and their actions does nothing to diminish the fond memories I would have of my parents.

 

Sure. Nothing special or sacred about a cemetery. Hey, your house is "just a place", right? Any problem if I come over and whiz on it? I mean, it's just a "place". :sssh:

 

Sorry, there are actions that cross lines and boundaries of societal norms. Maybe not the society you'd prefer to set up for us all, but the one we currently live in. Public nudity and public urination aren't acceptable. Disrespecting things like the flag and places like cemeteries and national historic landmarks and memories of loved ones generally just isn't acceptable behavior. Maybe one day you'll be lucky enough to change all that and create your own perfect society. Until then I guess your stuck living in this one.

Oh, and by the way, she's ugly. Seriously ugly. Double paper bag ugly. :lol:

Oh, and one last thing, if you actually see someone urinating on your parent's graves and don't run up and beat the living bejesus out of them, that's a shame. Try peeing on my dad's grave and see what happens to you. I would think just about anyone would feel that way. Maybe not. :idunno: