February 17, 201016 yr Author The average ranking per win is based upon the opponent. For example, there are 2 wins over Temple, but it only accounted for one win in the average. Same goes for the losses. As a result, the averages are not completely accurate, but are relatively close.
February 17, 201016 yr Author Nice work CC. I know it would be a lot more work but I wonder how this stacks up Vs other conferences. You're up.
February 18, 201016 yr Wanna do this when SEC Football rolls around? I believe you are looking for an anti Big East thread, which is not what this is. The SEC football thread comes up every season.
February 18, 201016 yr I believe you are looking for an anti Big East thread, which is not what this is. I know it's not. But the "rest of the Big East is not as good as they're made out to be" is a shot at the conference. We always hear about how the "doormats" of the SEC have to compete in the SEC, which is why they don't fare well. Does that hold true for the basketball teams in the Big East?
February 18, 201016 yr Wanna do this when SEC Football rolls around? Yeah, because the BEast has the past 4 national champions in basketball....Oh wait....
February 18, 201016 yr Yeah, because the BEast has the past 4 national champions in basketball....Oh wait.... But seriously... How is it different? I could say "Outside of Florida, LSU and Alabama, the rest of the SEC isn't as good as the media makes them out to be." Is it the same as this situation, or am I missing something?
February 18, 201016 yr But seriously... How is it different? I could say "Outside of Florida, LSU and Alabama, the rest of the SEC isn't as good as the media makes them out to be." Is it the same as this situation, or am I missing something? Well, considering whenever a lower-tier BEast team beats one of the "big dogs" all we hear is how crazy the conference is, I'd say it's quite a bit different.
February 18, 201016 yr But seriously... How is it different? I could say "Outside of Florida, LSU and Alabama, the rest of the SEC isn't as good as the media makes them out to be." Is it the same as this situation, or am I missing something? Doesn't that get said every year? I view the two conferences almost like mirror images of each other in their respective sports. Both are clearly the best on a consistent basis. Both have elite teams at the top and tough competition throughout the conference. You don't have to obsess over out-of-conference wins, SOS or RPI...just watch them play. The quality is obvious. The difference is, as stated, the SEC has 4 consecutive BCS championships to fall back on, while the Big East has yet to win a title in hoops. Its a fair argument, but a little misleading if not carried through, IMO. The Big East in basketball gets the "benefit" of playing in a sport that decides it on the court. That may sound fair, but I'm of the opinion that its a lot easier to win one game than to win six. Let me pose it this way...if college basketball was decided like college football, the top team in the Big East, just like the SEC champion in football, would be an odds on favorite most years to be one of the two representatives in the championship game. There's certainly something to be said of the SEC's recent run of championships, but its not the end of the discussion. The sports use completely different post-season formats. They're the dominant conferences in their respective sports. It is what it is.
February 18, 201016 yr Doesn't that get said every year? I view the two conferences almost like mirror images of each other in their respective sports. Both are clearly the best on a consistent basis. Both have elite teams at the top and tough competition throughout the conference. You don't have to obsess over out-of-conference wins, SOS or RPI...just watch them play. The quality is obvious. The difference is, as stated, the SEC has 4 consecutive BCS championships to fall back on, while the Big East has yet to win a title in hoops. Its a fair argument, but a little misleading if not carried through, IMO. The Big East in basketball gets the "benefit" of playing in a sport that decides it on the court. That may sound fair, but I'm of the opinion that its a lot easier to win one game than to win six. Let me pose it this way...if college basketball was decided like college football, the top team in the Big East, just like the SEC champion in football, would be an odds on favorite most years to be one of the two representatives in the championship game. There's certainly something to be said of the SEC's recent run of championships, but its not the end of the discussion. The sports use completely different post-season formats. They're the dominant conferences in their respective sports. It is what it is. :thumb: Well said.
February 20, 201016 yr Author Wanna do this when SEC Football rolls around? I know it's not. But the "rest of the Big East is not as good as they're made out to be" is a shot at the conference. We always hear about how the "doormats" of the SEC have to compete in the SEC, which is why they don't fare well. Does that hold true for the basketball teams in the Big East? Indeed, the two conferences have a lot in common. It is not a shot at the conference. I presented facts. I look forward to seeing your research regarding the SEC football. :thumb: Also, there is a huge difference. You're rewarded much more for an undefeated season in football. You almost have to go undefeated (or lose only one game) to get an opportunity to play in the national championship. As a result, you're risking an opportunity to play in the title game by scheduling elite OOC opponents. This is not the case in basketball. The two conferences are relatively similar; however, it's almost impossible to compare football scheduling to basketball.
February 20, 201016 yr Indeed, the two conferences have a lot in common. It is not a shot at the conference. I presented facts. I look forward to seeing your research regarding the SEC football. :thumb: Also, there is a huge difference. You're rewarded much more for an undefeated season in football. You almost have to go undefeated (or lose only one game) to get an opportunity to play in the national championship. As a result, you're risking an opportunity to play in the title game by scheduling elite OOC opponents. This is not the case in basketball. The two conferences are relatively similar; however, it's almost impossible to compare football scheduling to basketball. I really wasn't taking a shot at you, CC. I agree that there is a difference, but some are so quick to put the BE down in basketball, yet when the SEC is questioned in football, it's blasphemy. That's my only issue. :thumb:
February 22, 201016 yr Author I really wasn't taking a shot at you, CC. I agree that there is a difference, but some are so quick to put the BE down in basketball, yet when the SEC is questioned in football, it's blasphemy. That's my only issue. :thumb: I didn't take it as a shot at me, so no worries. The SEC's track record speaks for itself. In football, their out of conference schedule leaves something to be desired; however, the elite teams have played the system beautifully. The SEC Championship has essentially served as the NCAA Champion for at least the last two seasons. But again, it's nearly impossible to compare scheduling tactics across sports, particularly when football is involved. What do you think about the Big East's out of conference wins / losses? Do they impress you? And who / what in the world is Caldwell College?
February 22, 201016 yr Ranking of conferences by average rating of the teams Conference Rating 1 Atlantic Coast Conference .9081 2 Big 12 Conference .8952 3 Big East Conference .8721 4 Big Ten Conference .8671 5 Southeastern Conference .8351 According to KenPom.
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