First of all it's a winning percentage, and he gave you a sample size of 255 games so it's a very good indicator. Secondly the Reds gave their fans plenty of excitement from 1985-1999. The Reds finished 2nd from 85-88 when Rose was manager. There was also Rose's pursuit of Ty Cobb, Tom Browning's perfect game, Danny Jackson finishing 2nd in the Cy Young. The development of great young players such as Larkin, Sabo, Davis, O'Neil, Daniels, Rijo, Browning, Dibble. There was the World Championship in 1990, another 2nd place finish in 91 or 92 I believe. A division championship in 1995. Pete Schourek finishing 2nd in Cy Young in 1995. Barry Larkin winning the MVP in 1995. The Bengals don't even come close to matching the Reds excitement and success during those years. If you think that then you are obviously not much of a baseball fan, especially a Reds fan.

 

255 games huh. I would hope you would realize that would then put the amount of the reds games he used in the ten thousands....

 

Also from talking to many people who lived and really got to experience the Bengals. In the 1980's especially from 85 on, people were really starting to go crazy over the Bengals. I think you definitely underestimate how much people liked the Bengals in the late 80's. Your two years you keep talking about a lot is 90 and 95. That is not much in a 25 year span. I mean if you want to talk about MVP's then we could also talk about Boomer winning the MVP. We could talk about Corey Dillon and his two record breaking days. We could talk about the Bengals and the excitement they brought to more seasons at the end of the year than the Reds did during these times. People just seem to have a hard time realizing that the Reds really haven't had to much success over the last 25 years, especially the last 20. They had 2 or 3 at most good years during that time. The Bengals have had more. For history its no doubt the Reds have the better history and more successful, its not even close. However that is not what we are comparing here.

Another thing you talk about all of the excitement the fans, and city have about the Bengals. How many times were the Bengals bailed out by Ochocinco, or some other corporation, including the Bengals themselves so they wouldn't be blacked out this year? Wow. Those fans must have been eating it up with excitement. :lol:

 

Yeah just like all the empty seats we see at every Reds game basically for the last 15 or more years. Thanks for bringing that up. :thumb:

Well I definitely have posted more than I ever thought I would need to in this thread. So I am done with this now. Judging by this poll though, it looks like I wasn't so wrong in saying that this city has started to turn into a football city. Its not there yet, however it is slowly getting closer.

 

Agree with me or not. I think we all can agree that we all would love to see at least one of the two teams win a Championship. It would be so exciting for this city if either team could do it.

255 games huh. I would hope you would realize that would then put the amount of the reds games he used in the ten thousands....

 

Also from talking to many people who lived and really got to experience the Bengals. In the 1980's especially from 85 on, people were really starting to go crazy over the Bengals. I think you definitely underestimate how much people liked the Bengals in the late 80's. Your two years you keep talking about a lot is 90 and 95. That is not much in a 25 year span. I mean if you want to talk about MVP's then we could also talk about Boomer winning the MVP. We could talk about Corey Dillon and his two record breaking days. We could talk about the Bengals and the excitement they brought to more seasons at the end of the year than the Reds did during these times. People just seem to have a hard time realizing that the Reds really haven't had to much success over the last 25 years, especially the last 20. They had 2 or 3 at most good years during that time. The Bengals have had more. For history its no doubt the Reds have the better history and more successful, its not even close. However that is not what we are comparing here.

 

 

 

Did you even read my post? I mean where do you get two years? I mean I talked about from 1985-1995. I mean that's 11 years from where I come from.

Did you even read my post? I mean where do you get two years? I mean I talked about from 1985-1995. I mean that's 11 years from where I come from.

 

#63.

First of all it's a winning percentage, and he gave you a sample size of 255 games so it's a very good indicator. Secondly the Reds gave their fans plenty of excitement from 1985-1999. The Reds finished 2nd from 85-88 when Rose was manager. There was also Rose's pursuit of Ty Cobb, Tom Browning's perfect game, Danny Jackson finishing 2nd in the Cy Young. The development of great young players such as Larkin, Sabo, Davis, O'Neil, Daniels, Rijo, Browning, Dibble. There was the World Championship in 1990, another 2nd place finish in 91 or 92 I believe. A division championship in 1995. Pete Schourek finishing 2nd in Cy Young in 1995. Barry Larkin winning the MVP in 1995. The Bengals don't even come close to matching the Reds excitement and success during those years. If you think that then you are obviously not much of a baseball fan, especially a Reds fan.

 

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Reds have won before, give me the Bengals.

I am not choosing a side to argue from here, but I am so sick of hearing about the Reds not having a sell out streak like the Bengals. I've heard it here, on the street, and on the radio.

 

The Reds have 81 games to sell out people! Some during the week and during the day while people are working. It is a whole lot harder to sell out when fans have 81 games to choose from than when they have 10 counting the pre season. No doubt attendance would rise with a better Reds team, but to even pretend they would be selling out home stand after home stand is actually laughable.

 

Sorry for my little rant, but that argument is like comparing apples to oranges in my opinion.

The Bengals sell out games, the Reds don't come close outside of opening day. I understand there are 162 games but I just think more people are into to the Bengals franchise right now than the Reds, even if the Reds were to have a good season.

The Bengals sell out games, the Reds don't come close outside of opening day. I.

 

 

 

The Bengals had to have help several times this year to sell out their games. It is also incorrect to say the Reds don't come close outside of opening day.

The Bengals had to have help several times this year to sell out their games. It is also incorrect to say the Reds don't come close outside of opening day.

 

Good point, the Reds almost always sell out when the Cubbies come to town! :lol:

I am not choosing a side to argue from here, but I am so sick of hearing about the Reds not having a sell out streak like the Bengals. I've heard it here, on the street, and on the radio.

 

The Reds have 81 games to sell out people! Some during the week and during the day while people are working. It is a whole lot harder to sell out when fans have 81 games to choose from than when they have 10 counting the pre season. No doubt attendance would rise with a better Reds team, but to even pretend they would be selling out home stand after home stand is actually laughable.

 

Sorry for my little rant, but that argument is like comparing apples to oranges in my opinion.

 

It is vastly different. The problem is that the Reds are lucky to get 15K to a lot of their games.

 

There is a difference between "not selling out" and almost empty. The Reds are closer to the latter more times than not.

Isn't the whole which team has had more success thing a little ridiculous? Its kind of like seeing who is the tallest midget. Since the Reds last won the World Series both franchises have easily been in the bottom 10 in their respective leagues and possibly bottom 5. Over the past 15 years I would say they have both been bottom 5 franchises. Not a lot to argue about.

 

I'd rather the Reds win because I don't want Mike Brown to have any success.

Good point, the Reds almost always sell out when the Cubbies come to town! :lol:

 

 

And Bobble head nights, along with Friday night fireworks. :D

Isn't the whole which team has had more success thing a little ridiculous? Its kind of like seeing who is the tallest midget. Since the Reds last won the World Series both franchises have easily been in the bottom 10 in their respective leagues and possibly bottom 5. Over the past 15 years I would say they have both been bottom 5 franchises. Not a lot to argue about.

 

I'd rather the Reds win because I don't want Mike Brown to have any success.

 

 

Come on now. You know that NewEnglandpreps.com had the same agrument for years until the Patriots and Red Sox won championships. :D