timeline of Alabama’s NCAA problems

 

 

Key dates for Alabama’s NCAA run-ins since 1993:

January 1993: Led by coach Gene Stallings, Alabama defeats Miami 34-13 in the Sugar Bowl to finish 13-0 and win the 1992 national championship, the school’s first since Bear Bryant’s last in 1979. Early the next morning, star defensive back Antonio Langham signs with a sports agent, but the underclassman decides to stay at Alabama.

 

September 1994: NCAA delivers official letter of inquiry accusing Alabama of rules violations under Stallings, including allowing Langham to play during the 1993 season and lack of institutional control.

several players used their textbook money to obtain free books for other students.

 

Well lock us up and throw away the key...

.................several players used their textbook money to obtain free books for other students.

 

 

WOW, what a crime. You would think a college kid would use the money on beer and strip clubs. What kind of caring and nice young athletes are they hiding at Bama.

Somebody help me out here. Isn't the "crime" here was student althletes were getting the books (for classes they weren't taking) for free and then selling them to other students (at discounted rates) and pocketing the money?

Somebody help me out here. Isn't the "crime" here was student althletes were getting the books (for classes they weren't taking) for free and then selling them to other students (at discounted rates) and pocketing the money?

 

 

The books are part of their scholarship (grant in aid). Yes, the violation was that they sold the books. While I understand why they shouldn't do this, I disagree with taking away 21 wins. The school turned themselves in. I have to wonder if the other sports had to forfeit games since the issue involved over 200 athletes for 16 different sports team.

 

I think this penalty for what is being reported is overkill.

Before I could make a judgement, I'd have to know the value of the books the students athletes took for free and then sold.

 

 

Also, I find it hard to believe that over 200 students in 16 sports were guilty of participating and nobody had an inkling it was happening.

The students got not $00.01. they just got the books for friends. Speaking Brother....The Albert Means penalty was over, its an non issue..

 

Colonel, the kids got no money and remember the books get turned it at the end of the semester. You missed some other times we got into trouble. The kid you brought up gave the money back when he found out it was a cousin that wanted to be an agent. The University reported this like they did this time. Boy, we need to just shut up and go to all the Universities and see how many get into trouble with the NCAA.

Colonel, the kids got no money and remember the books get turned it at the end of the semester. You missed some other times we got into trouble. The kid you brought up gave the money back when he found out it was a cousin that wanted to be an agent. The University reported this like they did this time. Boy, we need to just shut up and go to all the Universities and see how many get into trouble with the NCAA.

 

If the players didn't pocket any money, this does seem like a tempest in a teapot.

Bama got off with a slap on the wrist no big surprise, they almost always do, when Bama is doing well the NCAA and Bowl Reps are doing well.

Three year probation, I disagree with you as usual. Slap on a wrist with 3 years, might want to rethink the term "3 years." And also did ^^^you^^^ read where I mentioned we turn our selves in?

 

The person also got fired whose job was to oversee this area.

Three year probation, I disagree with you as usual. Slap on a wrist with 3 years, might want to rethink the term "3 years." And also did ^^^you^^^ read where I mentioned we turn our selves in?

 

Are you saying the penalities should be less because Alabama self reported? Or Bama should have kept the whole thing in house?

No way keep it in house...report it. 3 years is way too much. The wins doesn't matter we won the games. The kids were giving books to others. if they were receiving money for cars/houses/payments/SAT scores thats different. NCAA has been hard on us for years. Look at schools where fans were stealing from their company and paying players...no probation at all. Just want it to be fair.

Does Alabama president care one Witt about integrity?

 

The last thing Robert Witt wants to do at a press conference is answer questions, even on a day when the integrity of his institution has been called into question.

 

Again.

 

Instead, the president of the University of Arrogance chose merely to read a statement Thursday afternoon. In those 256 words, he made a statement that helps explain why his school leads the Football Bowl Subdivision with four major infractions cases in the last 14 years.

 

Through multiple presidents, athletics directors, coaches, administrators, student-athletes, boosters and sports.

 

Alabama has what Nick Saban might call a cultural problem.

 

It's a culture that demands doing the right thing -- but only after you've been caught doing the wrong thing.

 

Again.

 

The names and faces change.

 

The attitude never seems to adjust.

 

Witt put the latest public face on the problem Thursday when he said he was disappointed.

 

Not in the 201 different student-athletes who violated textbook distribution policies and thus broke NCAA rules.

 

Not in the athletic department administrators who failed to notice a 30 percent spike in textbook charges over a two-year period and thus failed to monitor that program.

 

Not in an athletic department that will have spent 16½ out of 19 years in the NCAA's repeat-violator window, from June 3, 1995, through Jan. 31, 2007, and from June 11, 2009, through June 10, 2014.

 

No, Witt pointed his disappointment in only one direction -- at the NCAA Committee on Infractions.

 

"We're disappointed in the severity of the penalties," he said.

 

Now that is disappointing.

This note says that come 2013, Bama will have spent 10 of the preceding 25 years on some sort of probation.

 

http://blog.al.com/solomon/2009/06/solomon_batting_400_makes_alab.html

Proves my earlier point. ^^^

 

Player took money from an Uncle who wanted the kid to sign with him. Kid told another player and gave the money back. Bama reported this and still got hit.

 

Booster gave recruit's high school coaches cash, one coach got mad because the Booster gave more to the head Coach, turned in the Booster, who goes on probation?

 

The latest Bama reports itself like we have already discussed.

 

There are a lot of schools who have done more and gotten less.