I think that the six class system is okay the problem is with how many teams make the playoffs. I think only the winner and runner-up from each district should make the playoffs.

 

Come on the playoff system is fine it is the fact we have to many classes.

This new system sees almost every team make the palyoffs and it isn't an accomplishment to make the playoffs. This systrm also makes the state championship worth a whole lot less than what it used to be worth.:ohbrother:

 

Maybe making the playoffs shouldn't be the goal or considered a major accomplishment. Maybe the goal should be set higher: district, region or even state. Those of you that think making the playoffs should be considered a "major accomplishment" bore me, for that to be the goal is lowering the bar plain and simple.

 

Frankly I don't understand the opposition to letting so many teams in, those that "deserve" to be there will stay after week 1 and those who do not will be done after the first week.

 

I almost wonder sometimes if, to make the titles mean more, if we actually seeded the playoffs. Eliminate the brackets as they are and then seed it. that way if the two best teams happen to be in the same area of the state then they have proved it by making it there.

If you think it means a lot less than it did before, then you need to look at the faces of the other 6 teams that lose. Winning a championship is priceless no matter what level it is.

Having 2-3 of D-1 players and best football players in the state, doesnt hurt. I don't know if can call them a quality football program or just state they have a bunch of quality athletes!

 

There are several teams with quality athletes that do not make the final game let-alone win the title. In any quality program you have quality athletes but a player makeing it to a D-1 school has to have some quality football skills which means they must have had some quality coaching and all of that = a quality football program. So, I would have to say that Central is a quality football program. :sssh:

Scroggins could never win more than 5-6 games at Doss! :sssh:

Scroggins could never win more than 5-6 games at Doss! :sssh:

 

Like I said there are many ingredients to having a quality football program and coaching is just one of them. If you try to bake a cake without using eggs it probably won't turn out so good. I have no idea why Doss didn't win more than 5 or 6 games while he was there (it could have been a number of things) and I don't personally know Coach Scroggins but Central has proved to be a quality football program so apparently they have all the right ingredients (coaching, athletes, admin. support, community support ect....).

Scerotte (sp) won a lot of games at Central when they were playing old 3A football. I would view Central as a good football program that has won state championships due to the new 6 class alignment.

Scerotte (sp) won a lot of games at Central when they were playing old 3A football. I would view Central as a good football program that has won state championships due to the new 6 class alignment.

 

Sorry, like I said I do not know him and was just going on an earlier post!

Main reason to switch classes was the HUGE disparity from smallest to largest schools in old 4A (smallest school: 550 boys in school to choose from...largest: over 1400 boys).

 

I did some research and found that only TWO schools with FEWER THAN 800 BOYS IN SCHOOL ever even MADE IT TO THE FINALS in Ky's top classification. And that was over a 40 year period!

 

I agree that 6 is too many though. I think it would have accomplished the objective to do the following (something I proposed back around 2000 here on BGP):

 

* TOP CLASS - 4A: (Based on historical data...) all schools with 800 boys and up. Only about 25 schools in that class, but I doubt anyone could argue that would be a "watered-down" title.

 

* BOTTOM CLASS - 1A: Find school with lowest enrollment that has historically been able to compete at the state level (about 125 boys) and cap that class at exactly DOUBLE that number (schools with no more than 250 boys). Also, I'd like there to be SOME real alternative for TINY 1A schools to have the '8-man-football' option. Maybe play the Ky. champ against the champ from another state to make it more appealing for those schools to play 8-man?

 

* That would leave about 120 schools to divide evenly for 2A and 3A.

 

60 schools per class is consistent with the classes in other states.

Having 2-3 of D-1 players and best football players in the state, doesnt hurt. I don't know if can call them a quality football program or just state they have a bunch of quality athletes!

 

I've never seen 2-3 players win or line up and play the game of football. Central has talent from top to bottom and will play anyone. Look at the schedule, competition MAKES YOU BETTER. Very well coached and very discipline team, Coach Scroggins probably one of the biggest disipline coaches in town.

I've yet to read an argument for who the six class system hurts? Does it hurt the teams, the KHSAA, the schools, the parents????

Edited March 27, 200917 yr by bugatti

Who has 6 classes helped?

 

It has made it even easier for most of the same schools to win state titles.

 

It opened the door for a few schools in 4A every other year other than Lex Cath.

I've yet to read an argument for who the six class system hurts? Does it hurt the teams, the KHSAA, the schools, the parents????

It could be argued that it hurts Kentucky Football as a whole. Sure it doesn't hurt any one player or school directly, on the surface. But, it could be argued that having to many classes cuts down on competition for some schools, creates complacency, and creates a boring championship series if you know who is going to win most classes in most years. All the while decreasing the excitement and atmosphere of the Championship games.

 

I know we can argue the opposite, but if you want an answer.............

It could be argued that it hurts Kentucky Football as a whole. Sure it doesn't hurt any one player or school directly, on the surface. But, it could be argued that having to many classes cuts down on competition for some schools, creates complacency, and creates a boring championship series if you know who is going to win most classes in most years. All the while decreasing the excitement and atmosphere of the Championship games.

 

I know we can argue the opposite, but if you want an answer.............

 

I don't know about everyone else but I have been to the championships the last two years and it was anything but boring. Ram I know you were just stating for the sake of argument but I had to say that it has been very exciting so far. I think it helps football as a whole as well. I say this because teams that usually have no shot at postseason now do which attracts players and there has been several teams, if I'm not mistaken, that have been 3 and 4 seeds to advance past the first round the last couple of years. I am not saying 6 classes are perfect but neither was 4 classes. I have come to the conclusion that you can't please everyone. Also, some people out there just like to complain. I would like to find out how many BGP'ers that complain about the 6 class system also complained about the 4 class system. I bet there are one or two out there. :ylsuper:

As long as Central is in 3A they will continue to win state titles on a regular basis.

And as long as they only have 300 or so boys enrollmentwise they will stay in 3-A.