March 17, 200917 yr Who are the best coaches in the three major pro sports leagues in America-NFL,NBA,MLB? NFL-Bill Bellichick-3 Superbowl titles, nuff said. MLB-Bobby Cox 14 straight National League East division titles, a world series ring, 4 World Series appearances, 4 MLB Manager of the year awards, 8 time sporting news manager of the year awards, fourth on MLB All-Time wins list and 9 appearances in the NLCS. NBA-Jerry Sloan 16 straight playoff appearances, 4th all-time on the wins list for NBA coahces. How about you guys?
March 17, 200917 yr While I have a lot of respect for Jerry Sloan, I believe he has won more playoff games than any other coach without winning a title or something like that. So, with that being said... You gotta go with Phil Jackson...IMO it's not even close. Even compare their best years head-to-head and Phil Jackson has him beat. And I think, especially after your NFL and MLB coaches are passed on titles (whether national or divisional) than you must do the same for the NBA as well.
March 17, 200917 yr While I have a lot of respect for Jerry Sloan, I believe he has won more playoff games than any other coach without winning a title or something like that. So, with that being said... You gotta go with Phil Jackson...IMO it's not even close. Even compare their best years head-to-head and Phil Jackson has him beat. And I think, especially after your NFL and MLB coaches are passed on titles (whether national or divisional) than you must do the same for the NBA as well. I was thinking the same thing. No comparison to Phil unless you mention Red Auerbach or someone of that stature. I love Pats so Bill Bellichick is one of my favorites.
March 17, 200917 yr Author I was thinking the same thing. No comparison to Phil unless you mention Red Auerbach or someone of that stature. I love Pats so Bill Bellichick is one of my favorites. Yes, but Phil has had the benefit of playing with three of the ten best players in NBA history. I know Sloan had Malone and Stockton, but those were the years Jordan was in his hey-day. Would Phil win a title with Orlando, Cleveland, Detroit, or really, would he win with Stockton and Malone?
March 17, 200917 yr I think Greg Popovich should be in the discussion for best NBA coach. Also, Belichick is a cheater...
March 17, 200917 yr It would be awfully difficult not to consider Gregg Popovich as at or near the head of the class in the NBA. 4 titles in 12 seasons with the Spurs. .676 winning % and a sense of humor by fouling Shaq first meeting of the year on the first trip down the floor this year has me endeared to him.:thumb:
March 17, 200917 yr It would be awfully difficult not to consider Gregg Popovich as at or near the head of the class in the NBA. 4 titles in 12 seasons with the Spurs. .676 winning % and a sense of humor by fouling Shaq first meeting of the year on the first trip down the floor this year has me endeared to him.:thumb: That was funny :lol:.
March 17, 200917 yr MLB- Joe Torre NBA- Phil Jackson, yeah he's had some great players but how many teams have had great players and haven't won squat? NFL- Bill B.
March 17, 200917 yr It would be awfully difficult not to consider Gregg Popovich as at or near the head of the class in the NBA. 4 titles in 12 seasons with the Spurs. .676 winning % and a sense of humor by fouling Shaq first meeting of the year on the first trip down the floor this year has me endeared to him.:thumb: Definitely one of the elite... However, when it comes to NBA coaches, and if you're going to use "stats" to support your case, any conclusion not named Phil Jackson cannot be adequately defended. Phil Jackson (Currently in his 18th season) 1029 - 431 (.705%) 11 Division Titles 193 - 84 (.697%) in the post-season 11 NBA Finals; 9 Titles Never had a losing season (worst season, 42-40); never missed playoffs Has only failed to advance in playoffs two times Gregg Popovich (Currently in his 13th season) 676 - 324 (.676%) 7 Division Titles (currently 1.5 games up on Houston for #8) 101 - 59 (.631%) in post-season 4 NBA Titles Only one losing season (17-47), when he took over during the season; also the only time he failed to make the playoffs Lost in first-round only once Both are great resumes...two of the best in league history. But, 7 more finals appearances and 5 more titles? Too much of a gap there.
March 17, 200917 yr Definitely one of the elite... However, when it comes to NBA coaches, and if you're going to use "stats" to support your case, any conclusion not named Phil Jackson cannot be adequately defended. Phil Jackson (Currently in his 18th season) 1029 - 431 (.705%) 11 Division Titles 193 - 84 (.697%) in the post-season 11 NBA Finals; 9 Titles Never had a losing season (worst season, 42-40); never missed playoffs Has only failed to advance in playoffs two times Gregg Popovich (Currently in his 13th season) 676 - 324 (.676%) 7 Division Titles (currently 1.5 games up on Houston for #8) 101 - 59 (.631%) in post-season 4 NBA Titles Only one losing season (17-47), when he took over during the season; also the only time he failed to make the playoffs Lost in first-round only once Both are great resumes...two of the best in league history. But, 7 more finals appearances and 5 more titles? Too much of a gap there. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, and Rasho Nesterovich vs. Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'neal, Scottie Pippen, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone, Pau Gasol, and Gary Payton Would it be safe to say that Jackson has had a little more to work with?
March 17, 200917 yr David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, and Rasho Nesterovich vs. Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'neal, Scottie Pippen, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone, Pau Gasol, and Gary Payton Would it be safe to say that Jackson has had a little more to work with? But can't you say that about any coach with great success? Bobby Cox had the Jones', the great pitching rotations, etc. Belichek (sp?) had Brady, and a great defensive force. Auerbach had Cousy, Ryssell, etc. Wooden had Alcindor, Goodrich, Walton, etc. Coaches make players and players make coaches.
March 17, 200917 yr But can't you say that about any coach with great success? Bobby Cox had the Jones', the great pitching rotations, etc. Belichek (sp?) had Brady, and a great defensive force. Auerbach had Cousy, Ryssell, etc. Wooden had Alcindor, Goodrich, Walton, etc. Coaches make players and players make coaches. I wasn't really being that serious with it. But I will say that Jackson has won all his titles with atleast 2 of the top 7 or 8 players in the NBA. Jackson is a great coach and one of the best and also an extremely lucky coach as well IMO.
March 17, 200917 yr David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, and Rasho Nesterovich vs. Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'neal, Scottie Pippen, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone, Pau Gasol, and Gary Payton Would it be safe to say that Jackson has had a little more to work with? I'd say it's safe to say that Jackson has had more to work with than any coach in league history. MJ is the greatest player in hoops history, IMO. And, Kobe and Shaq are no doubt one of the best combos ever. But, he has been hugely successful with what he's had. So, the way I see it, Jackson has proven that he can succeed at the highest level when he has the tools. A guy like Jerry Sloan deserves a ton of credit for what he's done. And, it's a valid point to say that he hasn't had quite as much to work with. But, to say he'd win titles with the same players as Phil is just a guess, whereas Jackson has proven it. It's no fault of Jerry Sloan, but it is what it is.
March 18, 200917 yr David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, and Rasho Nesterovich vs. Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'neal, Scottie Pippen, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone, Pau Gasol, and Gary Payton Would it be safe to say that Jackson has had a little more to work with? It would be safe to say he had a little more to work with. However, I feel that it is irrelevent to say he had Malone and Payton because both were very far past their prime when they played underneath him.
March 18, 200917 yr Definitely one of the elite... However, when it comes to NBA coaches, and if you're going to use "stats" to support your case, any conclusion not named Phil Jackson cannot be adequately defended. Phil Jackson (Currently in his 18th season) 1029 - 431 (.705%) 11 Division Titles 193 - 84 (.697%) in the post-season 11 NBA Finals; 9 Titles Never had a losing season (worst season, 42-40); never missed playoffs Has only failed to advance in playoffs two times Gregg Popovich (Currently in his 13th season) 676 - 324 (.676%) 7 Division Titles (currently 1.5 games up on Houston for #8) 101 - 59 (.631%) in post-season 4 NBA Titles Only one losing season (17-47), when he took over during the season; also the only time he failed to make the playoffs Lost in first-round only once Both are great resumes...two of the best in league history. But, 7 more finals appearances and 5 more titles? Too much of a gap there. 7 more finals appearances and 5 more titles in 5 more years.
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