Plato Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Lex. Cath. is the only private school to make the Sweet 16 this season. In football, privates seem to dominate - but not really the case in basketball. Any thoughts?
Alabama Larry Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Basketball one player can dominate a game or at least 6 or 7 players can make a team, in football as we all know its numbers. Its two different sports with different concepts.
PureFan Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I would also say that dollars make more of a difference in Football and Privates have more to put in their programs!
Theoldguy Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I would also say that dollars make more of a difference in Football and Privates have more to put in their programs! What makes you think privates have more money? I would really like to know! I have seen fields at Ryle, Newport Public, and Johnson Central that all have nicer complexes, than any Private school at least in NKy.
Dlbdonn Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 I would also say that dollars make more of a difference in Football and Privates have more to put in their programs! Yeah Right . :ohbrother:
Theoldguy Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Yeah Right . :ohbrother: Sure that outstanding football complex that NCC has, makes all the difference in the world.:isurrender: Too bad the Bishop of Covington didn't give NCC all that money like they gave to CovCath, to build them a football field.:sssh: And the lie that the private schools are rich lives on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, too bad it isn't true.... Back to the thread how many Independents are in the Tourney? I am sure that Corbin, Holmes, and Shelby Valley, are Independents any others......
theguru Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Lex. Cath. is the only private school to make the Sweet 16 this season. In football, privates seem to dominate - but not really the case in basketball. Any thoughts? This is the pink elephant in the room. The public schools have been committed to boys basketball for decades. If the public schools had the same commitment to football for decades we wouldn't even have this individual forum.
Plato Posted March 13, 2009 Author Posted March 13, 2009 This is the pink elephant in the room. The public schools have been committed to boys basketball for decades. If the public schools had the same commitment to football for decades we wouldn't even have this individual forum. What type of commitments are you talking about?
Alabama Larry Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Any money donated to a public school is divided between all sports for both male and female students. I couldn't give "X" amount to the football program, I'm not sure how it is at the private schools. I know X/Trinity have no females to share the gifts.
Clyde Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 What type of commitments are you talking about? Any money donated to a public school is divided between all sports for both male and female students. I couldn't give "X" amount to the football program, I'm not sure how it is at the private schools. I know X/Trinity have no females to share the gifts. Guru is not talking about boosters and their financial commitments.
Alabama Larry Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 I guess I misunderstood the comment, and I'll stick to the thread topic.
Bluegrasscard Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Good football is a Catholic school tradition. Not just at the high school level but down to the 1st grade starting with flag football. It is a sense of pride not just at the high school level but, again, down through all levels. There is a sense of communiity that enhances the programs at all grade levels. Catholic high school football is not a 4 year investment by players, parents and backers - it is usually a commitment from early age forward by the player. This is why T and X can have over 100 pure freshman players. It starts early and is a lifelong commitment by the community. Now, these success factors are not just a Catholic tradition. Look at Highlands. It has community backing at all levels, they promote youth football right there at the high school field on weekends. Again, the investment does not start and end only at the high school level. Fort Thomas is a true top to bottom 'football community'. Other public school communities that seem to have this understanding include Bowling Green and Bell County. The Purple pride is not just at the high school level but also at middle school level and was evident last November at the Conference-on-Conference State Championships when Bowling Green won the 7th grade. Look at the rise of Bell County. Again, top to bottom support. The community pride was evident last November as Bell Middle school Bobcats played in the Conference-on-Conference 8th grade Championship game. To have good football you have to have a 'program' of some type that encourages and prepares kids for high school football. The Catholic schools and communities usually have this. Some hot spots of publics do as well. But when HSs and MSs and even GSs are not coordinated in some sort of football program (as seems to the case in Jefferson and Fayette Cos where Kentucky's largest PS HS are) you have less prepared players and parents at the HS level and you probably are not getting all your best atheletes either.
katbird Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Basketball one player can dominate a game or at least 6 or 7 players can make a team, in football as we all know its numbers. Its two different sports with different concepts. :thumb::thumb::thumb:
jbwill2 Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 This is the pink elephant in the room. The public schools have been committed to boys basketball for decades. If the public schools had the same commitment to football for decades we wouldn't even have this individual forum. Guru is certainly right... whether people like it or not, Kentucky is a basketball state at all levels of interest, including the high school level. However, I do think the post about numbers has something to do with it. BB and FB are very different sports, and 1 or 2 very good players on a BB team is very different than 1 or 2 very good players on a FB team. Also, I have to challenge the comment made in the original post that high school football is KY is "dominated" by privates. I think that it is better to say that there are two great Catholic programs in Louisville (T and X) who currently stand above the rest in KY football, and beyond that, there are several private AND public schools with very good football programs.
thsrocks Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Any money donated to a public school is divided between all sports for both male and female students. I couldn't give "X" amount to the football program, I'm not sure how it is at the private schools. I know X/Trinity have no females to share the gifts. Sure you can, simply depends on your principal.Each JCPS school administration handles these donations differently. Just as they all handle gate receipts in their own way. Or the delve out funds to each sport in different ways. PRP Baseball boosters stays with baseball. Same with Basketball. Softball has always done its own thing. At Male:why do you think Coach Redman has his Gold Club at Male? Those season passes go into the pot for football, not anyone else. When a sport works a bingo, the money stays with that sport at many schools. Male baseball boosters raise their own funds.
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