A player rebounds the ball then falls down laying on the floor. Clearly both feet move, however he does not "roll around" on the floor. Is this traveling?

If he has control of the ball it is traveling when he falls to the ground......

If the player falls, it is a walk, but if the ball falls and the player falls on it without moving, it is not a walk.

If he has control of the ball it is traveling when he falls to the ground......

 

Thanks...I do not see how it could not be. Both feet had to move. Unless the player had no ankle bones.

Thanks...I do not see how it could not be. Both feet had to move. Unless the player had no ankle bones.

 

Did his feet touch before falling? If he catches the ball while in the air, and has his feet taken out from under him and he lands on his side or butt, that's not travelling.

Did his feet touch before falling? If he catches the ball while in the air, and has his feet taken out from under him and he lands on his side or butt, that's not travelling.

 

Incorrect. It is a travel to go to the floor while in possession of the ball.

 

If his feet are taken out from under him and that causes him to go to the floor then a foul would be called.

I saw a play like this last night in the Franklin/Lafayette game. The Lafayette player fell down. But while he was falling he never stopped dribbling the ball. As long as you keep dribbling I would think it would be okay.

I saw a play like this last night in the Franklin/Lafayette game. The Lafayette player fell down. But while he was falling he never stopped dribbling the ball. As long as you keep dribbling I would think it would be okay.

 

Correct. A lot of people think that if you fall down its automatically a travel.

 

I think this play happened tonite and was called incorrectly.

Incorrect. It is a travel to go to the floor while in possession of the ball.

 

If his feet are taken out from under him and that causes him to go to the floor then a foul would be called.

 

If a player jumps up and lands flat on the floor, either butt or side, without his feet ever touching or body sliding/rolling, how is that travelling?

I saw a play like this last night in the Franklin/Lafayette game. The Lafayette player fell down. But while he was falling he never stopped dribbling the ball. As long as you keep dribbling I would think it would be okay.

 

I would agree if he was still dribbling.

If a player jumps up and lands flat on the floor, either butt or side, without his feet ever touching or body sliding/rolling, how is that travelling?

 

It is not. His butt or side would be his pivot.

If a player falls on the court, and nobody is there to see him, is it still a travel? :lol::lol::lol:

 

(I'm sorry - I couldn't resist - with apologies to the tree in the forest with nobody around to hear it...)

Incorrect. It is a travel to go to the floor while in possession of the ball.

 

If his feet are taken out from under him and that causes him to go to the floor then a foul would be called.

The problem with making this call is kids do fall down without contact. So you have a kid by himself in possession of the ball falling down- easy call-Traveling

Kid being fouled and falls down-easy call- foul. Except what if you are watching other players in your primary zone or get straightlined and blocked from seeing the foul. Then you see only the kid falling down.

 

2 kids going for a rebound or loose ball ( no displacement, not on floor ) -incidental contact, kid with ball falls down-???

 

You get booed whatever you call- either "he got hammered" before he/she fell if you call traveling or "that was a bail out call" if you call the foul on the incidental contact that caused the travel.

So as a referee, you watch the whole play ( you wouldn't want to make a call based on just a portion of it) and did the incidental contact cause him to fall? Advantage/disadvantage. You make the decision. Finally a whistle-

"that was a late whistle, ref"

 

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

If a player jumps up and lands flat on the floor, either butt or side, without his feet ever touching or body sliding/rolling, how is that travelling?

 

It is not. His butt or side would be his pivot.

 

4-44-5 says "A player holding the ball may not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than the hand or foot."

 

 

Gentlemen, the play as described is a travel.

 

Only a foot can be considered a "pivot."

 

So, the following scenarios are traveling:

 

1. Player A1 jumps to grab a rebound and is contacted by B1. Official doesn't think its enough contact for a foul. A1 lands on his butt. Travel.

 

2. Player A1 is going for a loose ball and dives for the ball that is bouncing. He is airborne when he grabs the ball and maintains control of the ball all the way to the floor. Travel.