With all of the recession talk going on and schools talking about budgets and so forth. Is it time to cut sports from schools and use that money elsewhere?

 

If sports are done away with at school where would you like to see the money being used?

 

What say you?

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Yes, along with any other extracurricular activities that don't support themselves.

Good and fair question. The emotion reaction is "no."

No. I subscribe to the ancient Greek educational philosophy of the "gymnasium," in which competetive athletic competition and physical development was an central to the education of the citizenry as language, philosphy, and mathematics.

 

The more intelligent question for me is whether we continue to waste money on certain pursuits levied as "educational," but really are merely panderings to political whim, such as "reading labs," "wellness courses," and several of the self-styled "social studies" disciplines.

My initial response is that athletics and extra-curricular activities are part of a well-rounded education and expose you to lessons that are impossible to learn in the classroom.

I just wanted to point out that I never said to cut P.E.!

 

The reason I started this thread is to see if people thought long and hard about how we use money is school. Sports seems to never get talked about in that reguard, so I am curious if the BGPers thought maybe money is wasted in reguards to education.

My initial response is that athletics and extra-curricular activities are part of a well-rounded education and expose you to lessons that are impossible to learn in the classroom.

 

But didn't we cut music and art:confused:

No. I subscribe to the ancient Greek educational philosophy of the "gymnasium," in which competetive athletic competition and physical development was an central to the education of the citizenry as language, philosphy, and mathematics.

The more intelligent question for me is whether we continue to waste money on certain pursuits levied as "educational," but really are merely panderings to political whim, such as "reading labs," "wellness courses," and several of the self-styled "social studies" disciplines.

 

I think this is critical as well!

No. Participants in extra-curricular activities on average have much higher grades than those that do not. They are part of a complete educational experience. I also think it is comical how people are comparing current times to the Great Depression. That is a joke, considering that we still have waiting lists at restaurants of over an hour. A far cry from people standing in soup lines and waiting fo cheese and bread...

Yes, along with any other extracurricular activities that don't support themselves.

 

That would leave you with very little extra-curricular opportunities and then title 9 would take those away.

 

Kids that participate in the extra-curricular(Notice I did not just say SPORTS), learn things that no one could teach them in the classroom.

 

Originally Posted by Hearsay

No. I subscribe to the ancient Greek educational philosophy of the "gymnasium," in which competetive athletic competition and physical development was an central to the education of the citizenry as language, philosphy, and mathematics.

The more intelligent question for me is whether we continue to waste money on certain pursuits levied as "educational," but really are merely panderings to political whim, such as "reading labs," "wellness courses," and several of the self-styled "social studies" disciplines.

 

I agree with this:thumb:

 

Money is wasted on a bunch of unecessary programs that seem to fall under the guise of education.

 

If you want to dump swimming, you better be prepared to dump the Spanish club.

That would leave you with very little extra-curricular opportunities and then title 9 would take those away.

 

Kids that participate in the extra-curricular(Notice I did not just say SPORTS), learn things that no one could teach them in the classroom.

 

Originally Posted by Hearsay

No. I subscribe to the ancient Greek educational philosophy of the "gymnasium," in which competetive athletic competition and physical development was an central to the education of the citizenry as language, philosphy, and mathematics.

The more intelligent question for me is whether we continue to waste money on certain pursuits levied as "educational," but really are merely panderings to political whim, such as "reading labs," "wellness courses," and several of the self-styled "social studies" disciplines.

 

I agree with this:thumb:

 

Money is wasted on a bunch of unecessary programs that seem to fall under the guise of education.

 

If you want to dump swimming, you better be prepared to dump the Spanish club.

 

Do you believe that they are one and the same, schools are dumping music programs and art programs, but have sport programs...hmm

YES. It is time to cut sports and get back to basics !

 

 

 

Football , basketball , and baseball. ( so small schools can field a team).

Do away with volley ball, dance , soccer.:lol:

YES. It is time to cut sports and get back to basics !

 

Football , basketball , and baseball. ( so small schools can field a team).

Do away with volley ball, dance , soccer.:lol:

 

By basics are you talking about studying to pass test that gets you money or doing portfolios. or do you mean actually teaching Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic?

Do you believe that they are one and the same, schools are dumping music programs and art programs, but have sport programs...hmm

 

I believe that schools waste to much money on things that do teach kids the real basics of education. In Oldham County, the schools don't pay for kids to play. They pay for Facilities and Coaches. The parents foot quite a bill to keep it going.

 

Where do locker fees go? There are fees on top of fees used to fund something.

 

Why is a kid learning spanish or music any different than a kid learning a sport. An athlete has just as much a chance to earn a college scholarship or make a career from what they love as a music kid does making it to the top of the charts. It should not take a lot of money to teach kids how to read and write, spell and do math. The books used 20 years ago should not be any different. I don't think those things change to much.

 

It is my understanding that we put a new school in front of an old one and then cannot move all of the old tv's cabinets, refridgerators and such into the new one. We need new stuff to go in the new building.

 

Schools are government agencies. $500 hammers and all.

 

As long as we score high on the KATS test, it does not matter if they really know the basics.

Just out of curiosity when was the last time any of you were in a classroom in a K-12 public school to see what was actually taking place?

 

 

Not baiting, this is a serious question.