February 16, 200917 yr I don't mind to pay my fair share. On the flip side, reduce the amount of theft retailers figure in to their profits, consumer prices go down. More prisons mean more jobs. That fixes the unemployment issue in the areas that have the biggest drug problems. In a nutshell, either be a part of the solution or a part of the problem. You decide. We are paying for the majority of them to live the lifestyle that they choose to anyhow (Welfare, Disability, SSI). At least if they were locked up then their kids might have a fighting chance for a decent life. I think he is talking about the habitual offenders. In no way, shape or form do I wish to live in a society where jail is the only answer to problems. If you're going to lock that many people up, you might as well see if your local legislator can get a bill passed reinstating firing squads and just execute all offenders, no matter how big or small the offense.
February 16, 200917 yr Does anyone know where I could get a copy of the program or could send me one, I would love to see the special.
February 16, 200917 yr Does anyone know where I could get a copy of the program or could send me one, I would love to see the special. You can watch it online through the links provided at the beginning of the thread.
February 16, 200917 yr In no way, shape or form do I wish to live in a society where jail is the only answer to problems. If you're going to lock that many people up, you might as well see if your local legislator can get a bill passed reinstating firing squads and just execute all offenders, no matter how big or small the offense. You missed some key points to my original post. The word habitual was used. This doesn't mean a first time offender. I also said after failed attempts at rehab. Once again, this means someone that has violated time and time again. I'm not against second or even third chances. At the same time, I'm sick of all the bleeding hearts that want to save the world. Not everyone wants to be saved. Not everyone deserves to be saved. These are the people I am referring to. HABITUAL DRUG ABUSERS! Quit taking what I say out of context just to make your own point. Something has to be done to curb the drug problem. Social workers aren't getting it done. It's time to get serious.
February 16, 200917 yr I didn't see the show, but from reading the posts on here I am even more confident in my opinion that Kentucky needs multiple junior colleges that have sports programs. At this point there are none. St. Catherine's was the last and now it is a 4 year school and a member of the Mid-south Conference with Georgetown, Cumberland, Campbellsville, etc. A junior college league would help many kids from all kinds of backgrounds who may not have the grades or the money or whatever to get into the other schools.
February 16, 200917 yr This show has done nothing to help eastern Ky. But I wouldn't call these people lazy, they aren't really lazy as much as they've been taught how to be completely dependent on the government. Welfare and food stamps are good programs but they have gone unchecked longer than they ever should have. People have became so dependent on them they couldn't survive without them and they don't get jobs because all they know is a hand out, not a hand up. It's a problem all over this country it's just 20/20 decided to show it in eastern Kentucky Friday night. But i agree that it can be as bad or worse in any area of this country. Find me five homeless people in New York City and lets see if their condition doesn't make us just as sick and saddened as what we saw about eastern Kentucky.
February 16, 200917 yr You missed some key points to my original post. The word habitual was used. This doesn't mean a first time offender. I also said after failed attempts at rehab. Once again, this means someone that has violated time and time again. I'm not against second or even third chances. At the same time, I'm sick of all the bleeding hearts that want to save the world. Not everyone wants to be saved. Not everyone deserves to be saved. These are the people I am referring to. HABITUAL DRUG ABUSERS! Quit taking what I say out of context just to make your own point. Something has to be done to curb the drug problem. Social workers aren't getting it done. It's time to get serious. I didn't take anything out of context. Your earlier post and this one say the exact same thing. Rehab doesn't work, in your opinion. I'm of the opinion you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Rehab can work in conjunction with several other methods. Locking them up and throwing away the key isn't the answer anymore than a 100 percent rehab approach is.
February 16, 200917 yr This show has done nothing to help eastern Ky. But I wouldn't call these people lazy, they aren't really lazy as much as they've been taught how to be completely dependent on the government. Welfare and food stamps are good programs but they have gone unchecked longer than they ever should have. People have became so dependent on them they couldn't survive without them and they don't get jobs because all they know is a hand out, not a hand up. It's a problem all over this country it's just 20/20 decided to show it in eastern Kentucky Friday night. But i agree that it can be as bad or worse in any area of this country. Find me five homeless people in New York City and lets see if their condition doesn't make us just as sick and saddened as what we saw about eastern Kentucky. I don't necessarily agree with that. Every time one of these programs take place, it highlights problems in the area that it seems you and others would rather hide from the light. The fact that you get mad about it at least shows that it is a problem that is embarrassing, which means you at least care. But rather than get mad at the messenger, more people need to take an active role in combating the problem rather than just wishing outsiders wouldn't shine light on it.
February 16, 200917 yr I don't necessarily agree with that. Every time one of these programs take place, it highlights problems in the area that it seems you and others would rather hide from the light. The fact that you get mad about it at least shows that it is a problem that is embarrassing, which means you at least care. But rather than get mad at the messenger, more people need to take an active role in combating the problem rather than just wishing outsiders wouldn't shine light on it. Why did Ms. Sawyers follow that boy around then for almost two years and then when he was in his most desperate hour couldn't help him? Do you honestly think she couldn't have pulled strings and found him a job in Nashville or helped him have money to go to McDonalds with friends in college?
February 16, 200917 yr Why did Ms. Sawyers follow that boy around then for almost two years and then when he was in his most desperate hour couldn't help him? Do you honestly think she couldn't have pulled strings and found him a job in Nashville or helped him have money to go to McDonalds with friends in college? That kind of goes against the basic principles of journalism. She's there to document the story, not be a part of it.
February 16, 200917 yr That kind of goes against the basic principles of journalism. She's there to document the story, not be a part of it. But it's her story too, she is from rural Kentucky.
February 16, 200917 yr There will be truck loads of Hannah Montana boots shipped in here along with other "things" that people who watched this show and were touched, will want to provide to these families. It is a lovely gesture and the kids most certainly deserve the things that they will receive. I think that Diane Sawyer was wanting to highlight the kids that are being hurt by the poor decisions of their parents and in essence being left behind by society. I get that, but while doing so she also perpetuated ALL the hillbilly stereotypes that the rest of us get kind of tired of hearing. We need good roads in Eastern Kentucky. We need a bigger selection of jobs. Do to the terrain we live in, there isn't a lot of flat land to build on. Although I am thankful that we have the opportunity to have a valuable resource like coal in this area, coal mining isn't for everyone. After seeing the 20/20 show, what company is going to want to come start a business in our area? We need some money in this area, but not for those individuals who choose to abuse prescription drugs and live like they do. Those adults should be made to work and I am for passing a drug test before you get your check. We need money for infrastructure.
February 16, 200917 yr She's from Louisville. She was born in Glasgow. But, I have ran in to people from Lexington and Louisville that look down on eastern Kentucky so living most of her life in Louisville she may have been exposed to a lot of people that look down on us.
February 16, 200917 yr She was born in Glasgow. But, I have ran in to people from Lexington and Louisville that look down on eastern Kentucky so living most of her life in Louisville she may have been exposed to a lot of people that look down on us. And maybe you're projecting an intent that isn't there. FWIW, I've run into more people from outside Louisville and Lexington who assume that we (Louisvillian's & Lexingtonians) look down on them, than I've run into people who actually do.
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