He will promise to solve our problems and might solve some, but if he doesn't get what he wants in return, our children(and further generations) are going to pay a heavy price.

Thanks for another great thread. :thumb:

Thanks for another great thread. :thumb:

 

Thanks for reading and posting:thumb:

Thanks for another great thread. :thumb:

 

Instead of just complaining about the thread's content what not try to provide some evidence that it's true.

 

I honestly believe that this is a very good analogy. I do believe that many (again I wouldn't want to be accused of painting with to broad a brush) have no real clue what Obama stands for but will vote for him anyway.

I think Obama is a good speaker that is like most other politicians - full of crip :lol:

Instead of just complaining about the thread's content what not try to provide some evidence that it's true.

 

I honestly believe that this is a very good analogy. I do believe that many (again I wouldn't want to be accused of painting with to broad a brush) have no real clue what Obama stands for but will vote for him anyway.

 

I just don't understand why yet another thread had to be started. This topic (in some form or another) already has about a dozen different threads going. Why must the anti-Obama crowd start a new thread every time they read an article or have a thought against the man? It just gets so tiresome to weed through all the daily accusations, links, videos, and general shenanigans that are brought to this forum.

 

You don't like him, I get it. You think I'm a lemming, I get it. You think I'm the dumbest creature on Earth for believing the "lies spewed" by Obama. I get it. But how many times a day do I have to hear it?

 

I have my reasons for supporting Obama. Do I have to get past some things to vote for him? Yes. Do I think he's the perfect candidate? No. But what I would really love is for all the folks on here who continue to start a new negative thread every 5 minutes about some aspect of Obama's life and campaign to just respect me and my opinions without the condescending attitude. It's really a turnoff.

I think Obama is a good speaker that is like most other politicians - full of crip :lol:

 

Oops - Crip = Crap:thumb:

I am a comic book collector from the 80's and 90's.

 

Pied Piper was a villian in the Barry Allen Flash comic books.

And then when Wally West became Flash, he became a friend to Wally and an admitted

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Socialist, who wanted to take from the rich and give to the poor.

I just don't understand why yet another thread had to be started. This topic (in some form or another) already has about a dozen different threads going. Why must the anti-Obama crowd start a new thread every time they read an article or have a thought against the man? It just gets so tiresome to weed through all the daily accusations, links, videos, and general shenanigans that are brought to this forum.

 

You don't like him, I get it. You think I'm a lemming, I get it. You think I'm the dumbest creature on Earth for believing the "lies spewed" by Obama. I get it. But how many times a day do I have to hear it?

 

I have my reasons for supporting Obama. Do I have to get past some things to vote for him? Yes. Do I think he's the perfect candidate? No. But what I would really love is for all the folks on here who continue to start a new negative thread every 5 minutes about some aspect of Obama's life and campaign to just respect me and my opinions without the condescending attitude. It's really a turnoff.

No offense, but the constant complaining about the number of negative Obama threads by many Obama supporters on this site is what really gets old. When most of the anti-Obama threads concerned Obama's many questionable associations with terrorists, communists, and socialists, we saw complaints that the threads are nothing but attempts at establishing guilt by association.

 

Never mind that Obama has, in every instance, lied about the extent of these associations, and that similar associations have always been campaign issues in the past for other candidates. The refrain from the Obama supporters is that we should be discussing "real issues."

 

So, what happens when posts are made about widespread voter registration fraud on Obama's behalf? We see a few responses such as, "I am pretty sure that Mickey Mouse won't be voting, " as if every bogus registration of the hundreds of thousands of such registrations is nothing more than somebody's lame attempt at humor.

 

What about threads detailing the systematic acceptance by the Obama campaign of hundreds of millions of dollars of campaign donations without so much as validating the addresses and names claimed by the donors using credit cards to donate on line? Surely such actions constitute a "real issue." Apparently not, because Obama supporters have almost entirely ignored those threads.

 

I naively thought that Obama's voting record in the Illinois Senate on Illinois version of the federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act would be an issue worthy of debate. Instead, the topic has been largely ignored by most Obama supporters. In the few responses posted by Obama supporters in these threads, it has been obvious that most of those posters have not even bothered to read the documentation that has been posted.

 

Last night, I posted audio and video of Obama threatening to destroy one of Kentucky's major industries and what has the response to that issue been by Obama supporters? Mostly silence but otherwise the response has been a couple of "Too little, too late!" taunts as if this campaign is some inconsequential sports contest where the only issues that matter are the score and time left on the clock.

 

The bottom line is that when it comes to Obama, it seems that almost all criticism has been met with dismissive comments by his supporters along with criticism of fellow posters for even starting the threads.

 

It may seem that everything has been thrown at Obama including the kitchen sink, but it should concern every voter that the media has virtually ignored so many issues that millions of Americans, including independent voters in coal producing states, would have found important in both Democratic primary elections and in the general election tomorrow.

No offense, but the constant complaining about the number of negative Obama threads by many Obama supporters on this site is what really gets old. When most of the anti-Obama threads concerned Obama's many questionable associations with terrorists, communists, and socialists, we saw complaints that the threads are nothing but attempts at establishing guilt by association.

 

Never mind that Obama has, in every instance, lied about the extent of these associations, and that similar associations have always been campaign issues in the past for other candidates. The refrain from the Obama supporters is that we should be discussing "real issues."

 

So, what happens when posts are made about widespread voter registration fraud on Obama's behalf? We see a few responses such as, "I am pretty sure that Mickey Mouse won't be voting, " as if every bogus registration of the hundreds of thousands of such registrations is nothing more than somebody's lame attempt at humor.

 

What about threads detailing the systematic acceptance by the Obama campaign of hundreds of millions of dollars of campaign donations without so much as validating the addresses and names claimed by the donors using credit cards to donate on line? Surely such actions constitute a "real issue." Apparently not, because Obama supporters have almost entirely ignored those threads.

 

I naively thought that Obama's voting record in the Illinois Senate on Illinois version of the federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act would be an issue worthy of debate. Instead, the topic has been largely ignored by most Obama supporters. In the few responses posted by Obama supporters in these threads, it has been obvious that most of those posters have not even bothered to read the documentation that has been posted.

 

Last night, I posted audio and video of Obama threatening to destroy one of Kentucky's major industries and what has the response to that issue been by Obama supporters? Mostly silence but otherwise the response has been a couple of "Too little, too late!" taunts as if this campaign is some inconsequential sports contest where the only issues that matter are the score and time left on the clock.

 

The bottom line is that when it comes to Obama, it seems that almost all criticism has been met with dismissive comments by his supporters along with criticism of fellow posters for even starting the threads.

 

It may seem that everything has been thrown at Obama including the kitchen sink, but it should concern every voter that the media has virtually ignored so many issues that millions of Americans, including independent voters in coal producing states, would have found important in both Democratic primary elections and in the general election tomorrow.

 

The problem Hoot is that so much of what you say has such an anti Obama spin on it that even if there is an ounce of truth in something you post I'm not going to pay attention to it because of the source. I'll give you four examples. First is associations. Obama has given the extent of his associations. You don't believe him so you call it a lie. If he doesn't list every meeting in every mention, you say he lied. It just isn't true. Second, tax policy. Obama's tax plans are well documented. For most Americans taxes will be lower under the Obama plan than under the McCain plan. You don't believe him so you argue against your made up version of his plans. Third, health care. Obama's health care plan is not single payer, yet all of the arguments accuse him of single payer. Fourth, your latest on coal. Both Obama and McCain have advocated cap and trade. One result of cap and trade is that a new coal fired plant would need to use either clean coal technology or buy prohibitively expensive carbon credits. That is what he said. And both candidates have backed cap and trade.

The problem Hoot is that so much of what you say has such an anti Obama spin on it that even if there is an ounce of truth in something you post I'm not going to pay attention to it because of the source. I'll give you four examples. First is associations. Obama has given the extent of his associations. You don't believe him so you call it a lie. If he doesn't list every meeting in every mention, you say he lied. It just isn't true. Second, tax policy. Obama's tax plans are well documented. For most Americans taxes will be lower under the Obama plan than under the McCain plan. You don't believe him so you argue against your made up version of his plans. Third, health care. Obama's health care plan is not single payer, yet all of the arguments accuse him of single payer. Fourth, your latest on coal. Both Obama and McCain have advocated cap and trade. One result of cap and trade is that a new coal fired plant would need to use either clean coal technology or buy prohibitively expensive carbon credits. That is what he said. And both candidates have backed cap and trade.

 

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I don't understand how someone can believe that all things that come out of Obama's mouth are lies, yet believe many second-rate internet sources because they have the "objective" viewpoint you want to believe.

I find it interesting that there are no conservative journalist to dig up all these facts that hoot and all the other conservatives on this board are able to find.

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I don't understand how someone can believe that all things that come out of Obama's mouth are lies, yet believe many second-rate internet sources because they have the "objective" viewpoint you want to believe.

 

 

They are not lies. Like you admitted, there are some things you had to get past and then make the choice you feel is right. Others can't begin to get past certain things and in my honest opinion, most of it, is his skin color and name. Will people admit to that? No, but I expect nothing less. Why am I voting for Obama? This Country is in shambles right now and McCain can't fix it. Do I believe Obama can fix it? I believe he will try alot harder, he has to be good for so many reasons. He is young, he is brave and he honestly feels he can't fail. I believe he will do all he can to reach across the isle and eventually this Country may try and work together. He has ran a better race than McCain in my opinion. Had McCain stayed the same as he was eight years ago things may be different. Personally I believe he's a little loony at this stage and I don't think for one second he will do anything positive for the middle class.

 

We Obama supporters are few and far between on here, but the rest of the Country seems to agree that he is the best choice. I personally am not going to say I was wrong again, like I was the last time I voted in 2000.

 

See you folks tomorrow evening.:thumb:

I just don't understand why yet another thread had to be started. This topic (in some form or another) already has about a dozen different threads going. Why must the anti-Obama crowd start a new thread every time they read an article or have a thought against the man? It just gets so tiresome to weed through all the daily accusations, links, videos, and general shenanigans that are brought to this forum.

 

You don't like him, I get it. You think I'm a lemming, I get it. You think I'm the dumbest creature on Earth for believing the "lies spewed" by Obama. I get it. But how many times a day do I have to hear it?

 

I have my reasons for supporting Obama. Do I have to get past some things to vote for him? Yes. Do I think he's the perfect candidate? No. But what I would really love is for all the folks on here who continue to start a new negative thread every 5 minutes about some aspect of Obama's life and campaign to just respect me and my opinions without the condescending attitude. It's really a turnoff.

 

 

While I agree with you that this same thing is in every other thread on BGP, the clear media bias towards Obama in the National scene is much worse. Just be glad (if you support him) that Obama is getting the negative attention on a small, conservative board, like BGP, but clearly gaining a positive National media bias over McCain.

While I agree with you that this same thing is in every other thread on BGP, the clear media bias towards Obama in the National scene is much worse. Just be glad (if you support him) that Obama is getting the negative attention on a small, conservative board, like BGP, but clearly gaining a positive National media bias over McCain.

 

 

Could it possibly be that they feel he's the best choice to be President? Yes, I think that's the answer.